No. My issue is that this tank is shit in every meaningful way possible.
I dont want Op armor, in fact i very rarely rely on armor at all. However the tank itself forces me to rely on the non-existing armor of this pile of crap.
I wasnt even talking about anything similar to this.
Have you seen single atoms with your eye? I bet you haven’t, so this means that atoms are very rare!
Yeah buddy that makes a lot of sense!
Not even attempting fair play but okay.
HEAT means “High explosive anti tank”. You know, it has EXPLOSIVES in it. The hatch is 17mm cast, so the effective thickness is ~15mm, so somewhere around ~8-900g of TNT (I dont remember the exact value) in ANY shell will overpressure the whole tank.
90mm HEAT is due to armor hole around the mantlet, but 100-105mm HEAT and higher will just normally OP it.
If you dont understand it then again, visit a doctor.
How how often this happens?
Well, i almost exclusively use this method to deal with the Conq.
A HESH or HE(AT) to the turret roof, or to the turret front and the tank is gone.
I could put up with the poor mobility, large silhouette, long reload, average armour… If for once the gun would just do some damn damage without the spall levels of a rifle round or the shell shattering like it was made of glass… I simply cannot justify playing this tank anymore when it’s gun is laughably bad for it’s size and post pen damage. With a reload that long you simply cannot afford for shell’s to shattered on stupid things like a leopards side skirt or an m26s add on armour or quite honestly anything that takes its fancy, there’s no reason for it. It’ll happen point blank to a vehicle and the muzzle energy just simply blinks out of existence… Because of the trash shell shatter mechanic that quite honestly should be removed until it actually works correctly. That’s what is affecting this vehicle the most imo.
the british 105mm L7 (and all of it’s versions), and the Chieftain’s 120mm APDS is pretty good. They are consistent, and do a lot of damage, even more than a 120mm solid AP sometimes.
I could not agree more. It would make the Churchill 7 a somewhat playable tank.
The issue is that the gun mantlet can be penned by any APHE, and just ammo rack the ready ammo (happend to me with a bloody Panther), it melts agains HEAT (even with the addon armor), and all the hatches are 17mm cast (so 15-16mm RHA), so most HEAT/HESH/HE will just overpressure the crew.
Even things like the french 100mm HE hitting the turret front at the left side (above the driver hatch) will pen the hatch, and kill all the crew. Then the turret top has 3 said hatches, as well as a 30mm plate over the gun.
Churchill Mk. III is a mess and needs to be split into 2 vehicles. The vehicle model is armed with a 6-Pdr Mk. III but the in-game performance is that of the 6-Pdr Mk. V. It’d also be nice if they added a “Late” version. So it should look something like this:
3.7:
Churchill Mk. III (L/43): Add M86 APHE, would have worse performance than the US version due to less shell velocity thanks to the shorter barrel.
4.0:
Churchill Mk. III (L/50): Add M86 APHE, same performance as the US version, and APCR Shot Mk. I.
4.3 (new vehicle):
Churchill Mk. III Late: Has the turret and hull applique armour. Add M86 APHE, APCR Shot Mk. I, and APDS Shot Mk. I.
Cromwell Mk. I is in a similar situation, and should be split into 2 vehicles. The in-game model is armed with a 6-Pdr Mk. V but it’s in-game performance is that of a 6-Pdr Mk. III. So, again, should be something like this:
3.7:
Cromwell Mk. I (L/43): Add M86 APHE, would have worse performance than the US version due to less shell velocity thanks to the shorter barrel.
4.3:
Cromwell Mk. I (L/50): Add M86 APHE, same performance as the US version, APCR Shot Mk. I, and APDS Shot Mk. I.
AEC Mk. II is fine, but, if it got access to newer shells it’ll probably need to go up in BR as well. So I’d do a similar treatment as above, such as:
3.0:
AEC Mk. II (L/43): Add M86 APHE, would have worse performance than the US version due to less shell velocity thanks to the shorter barrel.
3.7:
AEC Mk. II (L/50): Add M86 APHE, same performance as the US version, APCR Shot Mk. I, and APDS Shot Mk. I.
Valentine Mk. XI would be fun with M86 APHE. Like the other 6-Pdr Mk. III vehicles it’d have worse performance than the US version. Then Gaijin could add a new Valentine Mk. X:
3.3:
Valentine Mk. X: Add M86 APHE, same performance as the US version, and APCR Shot Mk. I. You also get a coaxial Besa unlike the Valentine Mk. IX.
Valentine Mk. XI, Cromwell Mk. V, and Churchill Mk. VII would all benefit from having M61 APHE.
