IR missiles in the teaser
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yeah ir missiles
this ones are the radar guided
Well theoreticly the radar missiles could be modification. On that note are there any ARH missiles in wt rn?
Wonder how they’re gonna model the IR ones, since they’re optically guided to target before they lock with IR in their terminal homing phase.
AIM-54 from the F-14s, AFAIK.
They also show up as MSL on certain RWR.
Only the AIM-54s iirc
Pulling from the suggestion thread:
I hope this means the full values because if it is IR, we know certain maps change the range.
But I also saw this mentioned too:
Which to me tells me that it should have the full range as we should be able to launch in the general direction and then let the onboard guidance handle the rest once it gets a lock.
I suppose this is pretty similar to ARH missiles in general so maybe we’ll get those too.
Only concern is the 3km ceiling as people fly higher than that these days.
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Pretty excited but also cautious either way im happy
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Yeah, quite happy, but cautious
I hope we get this very cool reload animation :D
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As I read the old proposal page and the new proposal page, I was wondering, why does everyone believe that you can’t shoot an ARH missile without a radar vehicle?
According to the Type 81(C) specifications, the missile can be locked on in advance and launched. In addition, pre-programmed inertial intermediate guidance is possible without a radar car, so it is inappropriate to think that ARH cannot be used without a radar car.
Edit: But I was surprised to find there were 4 rounds of spare ammunition. Of course, I don’t think it would be possible in reality… In reality, that vehicle would not be able to drive with reserve ammunition hanging down, and if it were loaded in two tiers, it would be impossible to reload.
I will post a link to the specifications for Type 81 (C) that was on the old proposal page.
https://web.archive.org/web/20040114005804fw_/http://jda-clearing.jda.go.jp/kunrei/i_fd/iz1995p4001c.html
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Generally speaking, the small radar present in ARH missiles is not powerful enough to acquire and track targets at long distances. I know for AMRAAMs they can be launched ‘maddog’ which means when launched they will immediately turn on their ARH seeker and go for the first target they see, not ideal though as it won’t distinguish between friend or foe and will just go straight unless it picks up something. Also, if a target is lost by the radar of the launching vehicle the AMRAAM can use its INS to try and predict the heading of the aircraft, but this can be easily avoided by the defending aircraft by just changing direction.
The 173mm diameter AIM-120 goes pitbull at 18km from it’s target. It’s not too big of a stretch for the 160mm Type 81 to reach out to 14km with it’s seeker.
Also the IOG mentioned in the doc functionally identical to INS. The lightwave FCS on top of the Type 81 should be able to provide a rudimentary firing solution until the seeker picks up it’s own target. It shouldn’t have any issues in engaging targets within it’s own 14km envelope and the drawbacks you mentioned about no IFF is the same for IR seekers so its really doesn’t matter.
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I agree that.
In addition, when firing at close range in Type 81 (C), instead of ``activating the seeker immediately after launched’', the seeker can be opened first and fired with the target captured (this is shown as a missile feature).
However, since it is inertial guidance and there is no uplink function for the target position without a radar vehicle, it may be susceptible to target maneuvers (especially in IR guidance). Also, as you know, the weakness of the Japanese SPAA tree was the lack of attack methods, especially against long-range helicopters. I have high hopes for ARH, but in the current WT, helicopters that are not moving are not visible on the PD radar, so I am not sure if the missiles will be able to aim them.
Because we don’t have LOAL in game
Good luck to search the helicopter 10km away using eyeball mk1
In the video, it’s a Type 81C, but if the only missile to be implemented is IR guidance, that’s just a Type 81.
I am not sure but I think type81 was used only with external radar and didn’t have any sights unlike one we have in trailer, can be wrong tho