Why use devserver when devs don’t dev?
The FM is still broken, not only can you fly 90º sideways on full controls but also do stupid arcade like spins and regain control easily
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Yeah but the stupid engine should have 1.7 ton more thrust, I can see the FM is broken but I guess if they want it to be 13.3 they could just fix both, and that will be balanced again.
I don’t think they touched the J-10 FM either since the first dev, still lots of issues
there’s some seriously weird things going on with it, god help anyone who goes into a spin with it. just tried with a control stick and jesus wept that’s an “interesting” FM - even in Sim you can do some things that don’t seem quite right.
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The J-10 is secretly a wild flying horse that will try to unsaddle you if you get into a spin
To drive up hype, nothing else. It’s concerning that people haven’t found this out yet
Yeah, very disappointing, it is still really slow in acceleration even against Mig21 and F4s.
This is precisely why players don’t get given all the vehicles/or enough SL and GE to get them/higher RP modifiers that give you 400k RP in one go.
Which is dumb, because then you wouldn’t have the assorted buggy broken mess that is patch day. Oh well. They haven’t broken my SKR-7, I will continue to grind the event.
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I clipped some bits off the JF-17. It didn’t look great. Probably should come with an advisory for VR players saying “do not play this if you have any sort of Motion Sickness”
No, same as MiG-29, u have to take into account channel loss.
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That’s just not true
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no channel loss accounts for around 1700kgf of lost thrust.
youd pretty much need a metal sheet in the engine blocking airways
Iirc, MiG-29 has the RD-33 serie 1 with around 8300kgf yet it only has thrust of 6820 kgf static.
The RD-93 is an RD-33MK it may have similar channel loss, JF-17 air intakes being really small
Yup it’s probably is static thrust from the bench.
There’s no way the JF-17 air intakes do not create channel loss, they are really small.
Her is the thrust for RD-33MK
It also appears to match bench thrust, so It will have less power in static in the airplane.
Please do remember that the RD-33 has a VERY agressive thrust curve.
Here is the Thrust curve for the 29, considering it has 2 engines.
It is possible the JF-17 has too much Channel loss, but I think the FM is a bigger issue right now, it just needs to fly like an airplane should, currently it’s a flying saucer
Which doesn’t specify speed nor installed thrust.
It’s producing 11,000kgf at mach 0.95.
On top of that, installed static thrust is 6834kgf currently.
direct conversion gives 8618.25503 kgf of force (from 19,000lbf)
the RD-33MK states 9000 which is in the plausible advertisement purposes range.
RD-93MA though, it gives a different rating because its improved over the original.
comparison b/w ws-13, rd-33 and rd-93
calculatedly though lol
RD93 is showed with 84.4kilo N, and 49.4 kilo N for no after burner, plus the max speed is 1900km/h rather than 1600 currently in game, it is unlikely for the WS13 (86kN) and RD93MA (93kN) to increase speed by 300km/h even if the data is for block 3.
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which is usually understood to be more or less max thrust provided at most if not any given moment
8000kgf less than the stated 19000kgf