Welp denied since the Saaf gripen cant be confirmed as a specifc model despite plenty of evidence idk anymore, why even have unique gripens or sweden when i can get every gripen model by stating its a C model.
Guess i should just bug report the SAAF and Hungarian gripen as missing the MS21 features since they are a C model and get all the upgrades we didnt buy. Again i dont get the logic of why MS can be whatver gaijin wants but them the Blocks dont get that treatment.
Is this supposed to be like this? Idk seems kinda messy, i know gaijin doesn’t seem to care about the gripen A considering they only really focus on the C model but it would be nice for this to actually be usable.
You’re showing a gripen C packing iron pdf? Okay, didn’t really answer the question about the Gripen A.
This is the old pdf too. Not even the more modern Gripen C foldout pdf
true, but at the moment the older pdf is more important in current tech tree generation of Gripen C anything newer than this will break forum troll’s mind
Considering our gripens are of variation “MS everything all at once” and i kinda doubt but hope we will get more specified variants.
Anything gripen related is actually quite perdinant.
(Until we actually get specific MS updates)
since the JAS 39 C was used by a few other nations i agree with statement
Again it has no relevance for the A model
@Smin1080p_WT can you explain what model MS the gripens are supposed to represent? The current gripen C’s don’t even use the C’s radar and instead use the A’s MS17 radar, it seems strange to add a gripen C and to not add the radar upgrade from when the C’s were created. Additionally any info on when the 5th bomb pylon will be added? Its been over a year since it was acceoted and info is appreciated.
MS17, 2004: color displays, better avionics, support for more weapons.
MS18, 2005: improved radar, a new system for electronic warfare, more data links, support for a reconnaissance pod with an advanced digital camera, and aerial refueling.
^this is when the C’s were added so again why do they have the aerial refueling probe and not their radar.
This has been answered already. They currently do not have an MS attached to them.
Currently no news to report on that. If you could link the report please, I can double check any statuses to be sure.
2 more questions, why dont they have their MS? As it stands rn it seems that sweden will likely not ever receive a correct gripen and as that is their only vehicle it hurts them as they are forced to use an artificially held back vehicle.
Are their plans to add CAS or options for CAS between 8.3 and 10.3?
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Not the original sorry about that but this is a duplicate
Likely for game / gameplay relevancy there has not yet been a need.
We are always looking to fill more gaps, any suggestions topics are always welcome alongside what we already have in our plans.
JAS39C missing center pylon loadout // Gaijin.net // Issues https://search.app/hJTskPqL9gFqcWbc6
Here it was sorry about that
Curious if this was still in the works considering this was acknowledged when the gripen came out yet it has yet to be fixed, yet the Rafale was given 8 missiles quickly.
Last question since this relates to the CAS, can we expect Denmark or potentially Norway to fill these roles (this is a hypothetical) or is it more likely they will go to another nation rather than sweden. They are the only nations i can think of that can fill that role as both sweden and Finland lack options.
Yet both the Rafale and Eurofighter have their specific models. Rafale C F3-R and EF-2000 Typgoon (Block 10 T2). These are just about the same as the Swedish MS.
Both Denmark and Norway are already present within the Swedish tree in the form of some vehicles. But at this moment, we don’t have any others to speak of currently.
This was relevant for there implementation and variant designation.
Both nations aren’t confirmed for the TT, yet sweden has no other options for assistance with CAS as Finland treaty prevented them from having CAS, so realistically there isn’t other options which is why i ask. Since if Denmark or Norway go to other nations then there is no option to fill those holes. Unless the plan is for them to just never be filled.
I know they have vehicles (in Norways case) but Denmark has one vehicle and it seems unlikely that Gaijin would add Denmark to sweden so thats why i was asking, again since they aren’t confirmed it seems unlikely that sweden will have those holes filled. Especially as sweden lacks a single 5.X (airwise and sweden has one of the shortest air trees in warthunder even with Finland.) vehicle of which Denmark or Norway could fill. I dont see any other nations being able to fill those rolls without them having no ties to each other whatsoever.
I only ask this as Finland as a subtree nation failed to fill any actual gaps in the air tree, we had fighters where they did so again its why i ask. (Or in some a lot of cases add the exact same vehicle to the TT with no difference aside from ordinance…)
Is it more likely we will see Norway and Denmark split amongst other nations if thats the case? Or is it still unknown as to whether they will go to a particular nation as of now.
How is that not the case for Sweden? I see no difference here. Why make the Gripen an amalgamation of different variants? In either case centreline bomb and better radar should both be added.
Below is a link to the SAAF JAS-39 post with pictures of the Thai airforce carrying guided boombs on the centreline if the SAAB Packing Iron PDF weren’t enough.
I agree, all nations with a gripen have some other top tier ARH slinger so why leave the swedish gripen without even slight upgrades, of course the other gripens should get them but considering sweden has only the Gripen C to fall on it makes more sense to add the radar it historically had when the C was produced.
Regardless id rather see whether Norway and Denmark are going to be exclusive to sweden. If they aren’t sweden air is dead. No other nations can be added to sweden and considering the state of their air tree they need both to have meaningful additions to help the lower BR’s and upper BR’s. Seeing CAS and CAP fighters for 5.X would be a nice addition also Norwegian T 2 skin when?
