Nobody here is trying to beat a dead horse for fun. But calling the issue “shallow” is exactly how things get ignored. When you’re dealing with a development culture that tends to dig its heels in, even small details need pressure. Otherwise they just vanish into the void.
We’re pushing because we actually care about the aircraft. If the community doesn’t keep these things alive, accuracy goes out the window. Simple as that.
So sure , the bug is known. Great. But that doesn’t mean people should stop talking about it. Sometimes the only way anything moves is when everyone keeps tapping the same spot until it dents.
Which we have, in the form of a post that lists them, that gets updated and focused on. A shallow problem is a shallow problem and focusing on it to the exclusion of greater faults is how we end up with things butchered as badly as the tornado or challenger.
Been here for a while, fought for changes a fair bit. Witnessed plenty of times these issues that are not that important in the grand scheme get focused on to the point we are stuck fighting for scraps to improve the aspects that actually matter. The problem is known, anyone who was going to flag it in agreement already has, we do not need to narrow the breadth of reporting just because an effectively cosmetic change took someone’s fancy.
Would be nice if it was correct. We have actioned it to the extent we can. A limited scope focused on a few problems sabotages the rest.
If you cannot grasp that flogging the horse until it barely resembles a horse and instead a tourist attraction for the deranged is going to narrow the scope negatively, I really don’t think you’re able to engage with this soundly.
I am not saying it is bad to action it, but it has been actioned to the extent it can be, unless by some miracle you happen to be on the development team or the artist behind the asset. The people who are going to raise it as a shared issue already have, and will see it as the comment gets updated so will in the future assuming they’re invested enough to raise a shared issue. The people who won’t aren’t going to won’t be convinced by the Nth response over a very narrow topic.
I am all for actioning reports to the greatest extent we are able, and we have done so. Chewing into the breadth of scope of arguably more functional reports by focusing on a narrow subset of aesthetic ones (unless by some miracle gaijin does modify the FM to account for it) does you, and the rest, a disservice. What can be done has been done, it is not hard to grasp.
Since I’ve already conceded to your evidently definitive grasp of the matter, I’ll simply step aside. The contours of the discussion appear, in practice, to be indistinguishable from the limits of your own conclusions. In any case, do have a pleasant day.
I personally don’t see the trailing edge flap as a shallow problem, it’s something that increases control surface area and possibly changes the flight model a bit as a result of that.
Assuming they bother, then sure. But having seen their treatment, I doubt they will bother.
Though again, what can be done has been done. Flogging it to paste is not going to manifest it, otherwise a myriad number of things would not be the way they are.
Can someone explain to me why the increase from Max Static Thrust to Max Thrust is so small, only about 11%, compared to other fighters with similar airframes like the J-10C, F-16C, Eurofighter, or Rafale? Those have increases from at least 33% up to 47%.
This gives the Gripen E a disadvantage in acceleration and speed, since the improvement from the C to the E feels very small. It takes way too long to reach supercruise speed at sea level, and only to get to Mach 1.02.
I think that part is by default, if a surface area increases it will effect the flight model, the question is more of how much. (I’m not entirely certain about this though)
If crying from the belfries worked, I would have manifested Mmw Brimstones and Exocet by now. Would love if it did, but we have to keep our wits and make sure we focus the breadth of errors in the representation, instead of honing in on just a few.
Just guessing here but either it’s not yet finished in that departement or it’s due to the relatively small intakes compared to the others. The reason thrust goes up at speed is the increase in air that goes through the intakes. Less intake area less effect from speed increased. But again, just an of the top of my head guess.
