I don’t think so? I’ll admit, I’m not an expert on German aircraft, but from what I understand the plane’s main claim to fame is being one of the worst aircraft of the war. Maybe later variants improved on this, but the one the Japanese got was the A-1 variant, which was one of the earliest variants, so it’s unlikely that they got one that was ‘fixed’, otherwise it would be a later variant.
I find it silly to say that Germany should not get a German aircraft. Germany should get the ME-210 because it is a German plane, and that is reason enough for them to get it.
I don’t understand the point your trying to make here. First of all, I want the domestic stuff to be added. It’s what gives trees their flavor and why I don’t like all this copy paste stuff in the game. If the issue is premiums, it would be better to have a premium minor variant or based on a specific plane. Secondly, the question never was could a ME-210 be added, there is plenty of precedent for it, it was if it was a good idea and, to be blunt, it is not, especially as it would require the Japan devs to invest resources that would be better suited in implementing an indigenous design. Thirdly, I do not like the Japanese F-16, and I would rather it not be added. The F-5E is fine, as it is not a Japanese vehicle, rather a Thai vehicle being put into the Japanese tech tree, and the two nations did, to my understanding, have friendly relations during WW2.
(responding late because I didn’t get a notification from your reply)
It says A-2 Nr. 2350 in the book excerpt that I posted above. Here it is again:
For Hungary & Japan, yes. For the Germans, there is no reason for them to receive a 210 as the 410 superseded it. There is no need for an unnecessary intermediate configuration when the standard established design was the 410
This version is a bit confusing. Some sources say it was the A-2 version, others say the long version of the A-1, and others say it was the V22 prototype. This does not change the fact that this is not a failed short version of A-1 or A-0.
Yes, there were two versions of the A-1. Short and long
That isn’t a good enough of a reason why Germany shouldn’t get a (relatively) major aircraft into their tech tree when Hungary would hypothetically be receiving it, and it goes to an especially if Japan were to get it in any regard.
I do not understand those discussions - if there is a demand for a JP Me 210 upgraded to 410 specifications, gaijin will be happy to create another premium or event vehicle for the JP TT.
Therefore +1
In addition i would like to see the Hungarian 210 Ca 1 with the 40 mm Borfors autocannon modification. The workload for gaijin to adjust the 3D model of the 410 looks rather limited. Same as changing 50mm BK 5 installation to the Bofors. Only real challenge is to use the DB 605B for the Hungarian version and the DB 601F for the JP version. So 2 planes for one…
Regarding a German version of the 210: Imho just a 410 with weaker engines (1475 hp vs 1750) - the Me 210 Ca-1 should be therefore slightly lower in its BR than the standard light bomber 410 A-1. That makes 3 planes.
Have in mind that gaijin follows no logic regarding domestic or foreign payloads. The German Il-2s never saw combat, but uses USSR payloads; the German P-47 and the US 109 F-4 have no payloads and basically all other captured / stolen aircraft use payloads from the original country.
Imho requesting a mix of GER and JP bombs is too much intellectual effort for gaijin…
The 410 was a major iteration upon the 210. The 210 is the precursor to the 410 and was the aircraft originally intended to replace the 110. So, yeah, I would consider it major enough that it would be weird if somehow Japan of all nations got it but Germany did not.
actually the Me 410 is the Me 210 with different engines. The Germans changed the name because the pilots did not trust the Me 210. Already in the late version of the Me 210 A-1, the main problems of the aircraft were fixed. But this plane was not very popular among units due to the large number of accidents. Therefore, it was decided to use new engines and change the name to Me 410, because it was a needed aircraft that could not be replaced by others.
Gajin doesn’t deserve my suggestions after adding this plane to the game. Japanese Me 210 A-1 W.Nr.2102350. The plane doesn’t have a historical name, but Gajim has a name for it somewhere. They prefer fiction to historical facts. (bug report: Community Bug Reporting System)
The Me 210 V-22 in the game is a German aircraft (literally) and should not be in the Japanese tech tree, only in the German one. Japan purchased the Me 210 A-1 W.Nr.2102350 and I am still waiting for this aircraft to be added to the game.
3.) Bv 155 B 12, which should have never been put into this game since it was just a developmental interim airframe abandoned in favor of the definitive configuration: the Bv 155 C
Not a fan of this point, considering there could still just be both (assuming they were both made in some capacity). It’s not so much the same aircraft that would be finalized a different when it’s simply a different aircraft, similar to other prototype or earlier variant aircraft we have.
Same goes for others if they’re referencing different vehicles completely from the variants in game, but here I just wouldn’t know.
These two are pretty significantly different airframes, with distinct designations
Aside from that I agree Gaijin is really bad with historical context especially.
That’s how we got the F-16AJ watered down with ADF features and using a different engine, both of whiche a decade newer than the actual F-16J proposal, all to downgrade a plane that failed to meet the minimum requirements in the competition.
It’s also how we even got it in the first place, considering Gaijin mistook another F-16 variant for an F-16J prototype when there never was one.