The Japanese nation’s vehicles are the only ones that have made me regret playing this game since I started in 2014. Imagine a tank whose composite armor can be penetrated even by a 20mm machine gun. Imagine an aircraft with a BR of 10.0 without flares/chaff, A bullet hitting the tank’s track breaks the tank’s gun.(oplot) I have a question for the Gaijin officials: I can quit the game in exchange for them refunding all the money I have spent on it; they don’t actually need to push my patience by tormenting me with the game. What is the Japanese tech tree doing in War Thunder?
theres quite a few of those, not just in japan
ah yes my favourite machine gun calibre but yeah thats like a lot of tanks, not just japan
The only difference with Japanese tanks is that they reload quickly, other than that they are useless. But that’s not the problem. What is the reason for a tank to be so weak?
Isn’t Oplot an improved T80? How can this tank be more trash than the regular T80?
Japan is one of the easiest tech trees to grind containing some of the best vehicles. It’s why I love the tech tree so much.
1- Your composite wasn’t hit if 20mm penned your vehicle.
2- Multiple tech trees have flareless vehicles at and above 10.0.
3- If your gun got broken, then a round hit it.
The Oplot is superior to the T-80 in-game as it is IRL.
youre massively underplaying how useful this is, and also theyre quite quick
idk ask the japanese military I didnt design the thing
I guess we’re not playing the same game
Dude, the Japanese tree is not a simple tree. I think simplicity and ease of play are very relative, but I see by playing that your findings are not correct. I unlocked all the vehicles, and it was the worst research process in the 10+ years I’ve been playing this game.
theres a decent chance you just arent accustomed to the playstyle of the japanese tanks, theyre similar to the italians in that basically every tank is a light tank
Yeah my nesher and shahak claps any plane at that br.
In that br i played with a friend that has the T-2 and he got good kills.
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Japan is pretty good on low and mid levels (I hate Gajin for moving Chi-Ri to 5.7). High levels are just utter crap. I’d rather play a Type 60 ATM on a city map for the rest of my life than anything on ground above 7.3.
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Anyone thinking Japan is bad never experienced playing Italy when they were first added.
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You have ariete most op tank in the game ;)
Oh, I’m no Italian main. And I’ve hardly played the Japanese ground tree, having mainly turned up for this:
So I’m just playing around, more recounting how bad Italy was when they first added her.
What I’m most thankful for with Japan in this game are long lance torpedoes in Naval. There’s nothing like dropping a nice fat torp and then going on about your day only for a battleship to explode 10-15 minutes after you launched it.
Edit: I did buy Ho Ri Prototype during sale, so Japan ground will be soon on my grind list.
Tbh they are worth each other in terms of their original appearance.
I can’t imagine how people played on Chi-Ha and Ho-I without any HEAT round
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I have japan it might even be one of my most played nations it is good but especially the reload but that doesn’t take away from the fact that it also had a lot of vehicle and mechanics within it that are plagued with issues, the type ten can be penetrated by pretty much anything that resembles a dart or heatfs straight through its armor plates (which gajin nerfed to get it to this point not based on anything) a terrible design in my opinion when you consider its lack of armor anywhere on it. Which is amazing when you consider in game we have the 44 ton armor package which has 4 tons of armor added on to its base model. The model in game very clearly only has armor within the tank and not any added on to it. It also suffers from the numerous issues with its transmission causing it to be slow and its suspension not being modeled correctly causing it to oversteer and loose all its speed any time any turn is attempted. Both of which gajin refuses to fix, citing that they dont have a model for its type of transmission in game and that it therefor cant be allowed to accelerate faster since it uses the in game model of transmission. They also just openly refuse to admit they messed up the suspension of it, citing they need a source to change it and if you try to show them common sense that a 44 ton tank should be exerting some amount of weight on its suspension system they tell you datamined material is not acceptable for a bug report. other issues across the tek tree in general include a bunch of tanks over tiered (more of a minor tech tree issue I’m aware but it still applies here) and the fact that many of these tanks receive unjust nerfs such as the type 89 which at this point might be the most nerfed vehicle in the game with almost no sources provided for any of the nerfs its received. Like yes it has good stuff and it performs well but I don’t think that justifies issues with the tanks and airplanes that haven’t been fixed. Another good example is the japanese F-1 is a strong contender for why gun radar lead was removed from the game it has yet to see this feature added back to it, the aircraft has also yet to see any proper munitions it can wield even if some are relatively useless like asm, or more importantly a chaff pod. I mean hell the aircraft is younger than the aim 9L yet doesn’t get to use those despite this being a rather modern aircraft and japan using them in service. This seems to be an issue in the community one thing being good or op in a tech tree prevents any talk about how it can be suffering in other areas or in general, like the otomatic that people defended with a passion as only needing to be a top tier spaa because its got 12 darts on it with good penn and a reload ignoring all the other factors on how it was completely useless as an spaa and too fragile and large to really be able to use the darts in an offensive maneuver.
have you ever heard of paragraph breaks?
T-80U, yes
T-80BVM, no
Japan really is a torture to grind at some points.
If you look at it from an air perspective there are bombers with ok armament, most a6m´s or ki84´s are overtiered and you have to look out for some gem jets at their br. For jets its no different, its either a bad performance or bad guns at their br(could make a list of funny planes).
ground is ok for the most part, but there are still some tanks I do not like at their br(personally its the sta series and the type87 light tanks(35mm aphe is the most broken shell rn so spaa isnt if you use it like 90% of the players rn) and most cas is ok.
I grinded Japan Air and ground to rank 7 without any premium vehicle bought, it’s not so bad
Japan has ground BR’s that are infact fun to play
4.7 Japan, 6.3/6.7 Japan, 7.3 Japan, 8 3 Japan, 9.0-9.7
11.7 can be fun but I don’t have the type 90’s spaded so I wouldn’t know
For air they are agile so in most situations you can win
The Japanese 30mm guns are great for cas if you don’t have any for 6.0