Ah, what I was referencing must have been referring to the aft surfaces.
Am I reading a Fool’s day joke?
90% of this forum is an April Fool’s joke.
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Yes please, would still be more accurate than the Fake-16AJ
No
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Given that the Gaijin is looking into the addition of more minor nations to bolster the Japanese tech tree, the proposed idea of an Indonesian Su-27 being in the Japanese tech tree isnt too far fetched.
Japan and Indonesia have good modern relations, both are relatively close and share history with each other.
The caviate to this is that the version of Su-27 that Indonesia fields is the Su-27SKM which I believe is far too advanced for War Thunder right now.
My stance is this, in time consider it please but right now it’s not needed. I’m all for making Japan more fun to play without having to try and justify something silly like the AJ.
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Maybe I’m reading this wrong but how is the Su-27 any less silly than the AJ
The F-16AJ is made up and based entirely on the fact that Japan expressed interested in the fighter.
The Indonesian Su-27 however exists and if i remember correctly Indonesia procurred 5 Su-27SKMs for their air force as well as a few Su-30s. Indonesia is a fair candidate for addition to Japan just like how Sweden has Finnish/Norweigian vehicles. (VIDAR is even South Korean but dont get me started on that).
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It’s absolutely not. It could been added yesterday and nothing would change in terms of balance. Just slightly upgraded Su-27 with ability to use R-77, still be useless due to crap fm. Only sensitive upgrade for game would be better RWR.
The AJ was only added as a stop gap prior to the F-15 and F-2, it’s really stretching the boundaries of a Japanese aircraft but I don’t see how an Su-27 Indonesian or otherwise fits the tree any better (or is even necessary since the game has moved forward into the F-15s, and Sweden is just it’s own special case at this point, hello totally Swedish T-80U/Mi-28 and now King Tiger)
I look beyond trying to keep Japan pure and focus on making it as fun of a nation as possible and the Su-27 from Indonesia is no more silly than the Hungarian Gripen for Italy in my eyes. For me this isn’t about “needs”.
A little bit of open minded thinking isnt poisonous when discussing theoreticals.
I dont agree to adding this when there are upcoming Thai vehicles that is going to be added to address this very problem. Its not real and was never in service. Moreso the cheeky posting it on the Machinery of War Discussions instead on the Suggestions must mean that there never was really any chance its going to be approved for Suggestions.
And instead leave japan without a capable fighter from the EJ Kai to the F-15J? It’s only a Block 10 F-16.
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Fair enough, I don’t think opening the floodgates like tossing Gripens to several nations was a great idea either but I see where you’re coming from.
If Gaijin hadnt pulled the trigger themselves I wouldnt be for it to be honest.
If its the AJ you guys are worried about, its more than likely to be replaced by a Thai variant. As for an Indonesian SU-27 to be added, its an alright suggestion to keep but it should be placed on the back burner until the Thai subtree is fully implemented and even then I would only agree to it on the basis that its either a premium or something.
As far as I am concerned, ASEAN vehicles COULD be placed as an expanded Thai subtree but that should be in keeping with Thai vehicles. If it were up to me, the tree development would be Thailand → SEATO → ASEAN.
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Funny you mention additional Thai vehicles
Its probably posted here on accident but thats for the OP to clarify.
I’m glad Su-27 has official gaijin Indonesian camo, so there is a less chance that they will make another shitty move by adding Su-27 to Japan.
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I mean…
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Bro that’s like saying that the U.S should get the MIG-29 just because they bought 14 of those from Moldova
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