hmmm, for some reason the ones I managed to find are…not sure why. Now I’m very confused, might be a case of the amendment record sheet on the documentation. last note was 1981, so that might be the reasoning.
Who knows, I have no idea anymore…
Jaguar GR.1 and 1A, bomb load option missing, and rocket pod missing+ possible 9L for GR.1/A missing
All bought from the RAF museum and via FOI. Are you confusing the fact they have their markings on them still? The UK doesn’t work the same as the USA, things that have export restrictions don’t get released in the hope everyone won’t share them. They just don’t release them at all.
They also don’t remove the markings once released.
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this was the response I got, when I provided the 2 PDF’s which I managed to find. the part that has me confused and honestly not wanting to get in serious trouble is the last sentence…
Which documents did you ask about?
Its more so the documents I found.
One is titles "Jaguar GR Mk1 and T Mk 2 Aircrew Manual Book 1 - Aircraft
the other is
Jaguar Aircraft Operating Data Manual By Command of the Defence Council - Ministry of Defence
both have restricted listed on all pages both top and bottom. and both have a amendment date of 1981.
both where found on the same website, posted by the same person. All I simply did was submit a FOI on the GR.1, and enquired about the status of the documents in question to see if it was given the “All Clear”
Ohhhh the old ones for sale. Yeah I can’t speak to those, but I have much more modern ones completely legitimately. And the FOI officer also pointed out that accessing and using that information as a third party (which is you) is not an offence.
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Okay, that was the part which scared me beyond belief… Was if it was all good or not. So, just to double check…and So I am not misunderstanding the whole thing. Its perfectly okay, for me to post those 2 documents in full here.
Yes. You’re fine to use them. Give me a minute I’ll post the more modern version of the armament pages.
okay, I’ll need some time to compress these 2 from 40MB to the forums 8MB or less
shouldn’t be too long.
Most people already have the manuals I wouldn’t worry about it. I have copies of those you mentioned.
Jaguar GR.1
Jaguar GR.1A (before the overwing sidewinder modification)
We have all the bomb options already other than BL-755 which isn’t in game yet.
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745543956-SEPECAT-Jaguar-GR-Mk-1-and-T-Mk-2-Aircrew-Manual_11_compression.zip (4.0 MB)
SEPECAT Jaguar GR Mk 1 and T Mk 2 Aircraft Operating Data Manual_11zon_compressed.zip (3.6 MB)
here are the pdf’s…took me a while to drop them, but that is rather interesting to see. then again, being on the other side of the world doesn’t help :D
Yeah as I said, I already have these.
Fairo, have to admit that is rather funny how both documents are viewable when they really shouldn’t. Thought, what has me curious, is if they received other variants of the Sidewinder system. As both only getting the 9G seems to be interesting given both are roughly 10 years apart.
Also, on a different note did you manage to find any info on the flare/Chaff dispensers on the Jaguars. As I’d love to know the reasoning for the GR.1A’s low count compared to the Jaguar A varient.
Jaguar A has a completely different countermeasure system to British Jag’s, we only used the ALE-40’s and Phimat Chaff pod.
GR.1A and up are all cleared to use the AIM-9L, the reason it doesn’t have them in game is a balance decision.
I see, makes sense from a balance point of view as of current.
I would hope, when it is right to do so. that the Missile systems get updated and I’d love to see the Phimat chaff pods in-game one day. be better than having only 60 flares.
Certainly isn’t off the cards, it was just bugged the first time they tried to introduce it. (caused game crashes)
Ouch, when was the last test?
This is news to me for sure…do hope it gets added…must have been one hell of a crash maker.
Given it basically made your game client unusable until someone from Gaijin’s end manually removed and added your Jaguar from your account, yes, it did make it pretty bad. We haven’t got a sniff of the Phimat making a return by memory.