PARS, Hellfires, JAGMs, Spikes, and even TOWs are still missing a lot.
It’s always been a fight to have Western missiles on the same level as Soviet ones, like the Khrizantema, KH-38, and Kornet.
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We can add the new French Akeron missile to the list…NATO just cannot make top attack missiles, hopefully Ukraine capture some LMURS and we can steal the clearly “superior” Russian missile technology…
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It’s already 2026 and Gaijin still hasn’t fixed FnF Nato missiles. To the guy saying that arguing is useless and we should just report it: you should know there are bug reports about the Pars 3 that have been ignored for over years now.
Mad to think 6 months on and we still do not have accurate lofting profiles for NATO missiles.
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Make that a few years. kilo hellfires are terribke
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because they know the moment NATO gets proper lofting, its gunna be a mess for them to now balance a good chunk of NATO aircraft/helis that all have the same armaments.
Hellfires should have a lofting angle when set to “HI” vs the “LO” mode when launching them but still often fly straight which simply doesnt happen in the missiles trajectory parameters unless its VERY close ranges.
Didn’t Smin state that there is no plan as of right now to fix FnF missiles targeting? They already accepted several bug reports but haven’t made any changes…I feel like spikes are an even worse state than JAGM and PARS as at least helis are up high. IFV with spikes are on the ground so most of the spikes hit the UFP or turret cheek making them useless to the team, just scouting and getting assists. Or is this karma for the puma being too op when it was first added to the game lol
Cus proper targeting would make Rossiya suffer )))
Only Rossiya can have proper targeting )))
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Well that’s the thing isn’t it, virtually all of the Russian Air to Surface missiles got heavy SAP-HE warheads so they never need an accurate CoM shot, they just need to hit the track and the HE mechanics in this game will do the rest, so they remain largely unaffected by the lack of proper tracking.
This is why the missile count is so irrelevant in the LMUR vs JAGM debate, it’s not an advantage to carry double the payload if half of your missiles go for the literal edges of the vehicle instead of aiming for the actual center.
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NATO won’t get effective modern AGM or it will be nerfed 0.0000001 sec after release because:
- Slavik doesn’t like USA and everything related to it
- Slavik is soviet fanatic
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if they fixed those missiles, things will go the PE-8 way.
For ages, the PE-8 was insane, unless there were fighters in the air, you KNEW a good portion of your team was in danger.
fast forward and other planes starts to get big bombs, and what happens?
Suddenly big bombs are to powerful and they get nerfed.
Oh they benefit from it in another way. By having an ability to scoop you from behind of almost any cover and as a bonus it also makes LMUR almost uniterceptable.
I actually found a sweet fix for this you can do on your own.
STOP playing war thunder! My stress has never been lower and the propaganda in my head is at an all time low!
Oh, no. Making their gameplay as annoying as possible is a way to go.
This way I can stress out myself AND them.
I’m an adult - I’m used to it. ru mains though? Well ask a hippie if he knows a thing or two about responsibility - same thing.
I haven’t seen / can’t find where he said this but if it wouldn’t surprise me.
They will stop at nothing to eke out performance from Russia.
Good point. They never bothered to change the HE bomb mechanic and the way the blast radius was calculated. I remember PE-8 FAB5000 nuked whole teams on especially smaller chokepoint maps and vs. ships in naval.
Then Germany got it MAX bomb, which wasn’t as severe as the FAB5000, but it still got 85m total destruction blast radius. Ru comm started to dislike the bomb in GRB and Naval. It didn’t took long for the first revamp of the HE calcs, which resulted in 1/4 less destructive power. Then other big bombs followed and we quicly saw another revamp and now big bombs are not really a factor anymore. In Naval its even totally meaningless now.
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Pre first nerf btw
I wish they added B36 with the T12 bomb before the nerf
it would have been glorious
The US is still waiting on the Azon(VB-1 & -2), Razon(VB-3 & -4), Or VB-13(Tallboy w/ scaled up Razon tail kit) even after the similar Fritz-X has been in the game for years at this point.
or the AN/M56A1 (4000lb, ~1800kg class) as a similar large bomb ~3000~ 3200lb of explosive depending on if the Fill is either TNT, Amatol or 50-50.