7Fs aren’t very good, I rarely ever die to them when I play that br, they’re also not reliable and can just randomly lose track
The F-4J is probably the most useless platform to use an hmd in the game
F-4F ICE might be some kind of complicated level in BR just like eh… erm… Tornado F.3 CSP does.
They both might be too weak on the current 13.3 due to the extensive rate of being uptier and faces those damn nasty F-15C smacks their lips with the superior airframe.
So, I think both planes need to be separated with two levels of BR [+0.6~0.7] from F-15C or F-15I which will come out.
But if we buff them directly to 13.0. then the problem will be their down-tier match.
not much of 12.0-12.3 has a chance against mighty AIM-120 with 4th gen standard PD radar.
Well, those 3rd-gen planes usually can’t get a chance against Phoenixes and Fakours thanks to ridiculously outdated RWR and a few countermeasures.
Then, they can’t just resist AIM-120, just like when AIM-120 and friend ARHs were introduced and AV-8B+ had a sweet spot on their BR.
They will be too weak on 13.3, but gonna be too strong at the current 13.0.
their proper position might be 13.15-ish after BR decompression.
Then JA37Di can enjoy their AIM-120 shooting at their 13.0BR too.
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Still, It is one of the best SARH missiles that 12.0BR can carry and fire against Su-27, F-15A or the rest of the 13.0BR predators.
Super 530F is just a dumb pulse seeker missile which will get defeated by a single chaff
and Skyflash(RB71)/AIM-7E-2 are better than 7F on closer range thanks to manoeuvrability
but their effective range is too short compared to AIM-7F.
Of course, it is weaker than R-27ER.
but personally think it is still the best bet for the western 12.0BR jet.
I personally would even take a viggen C over an F-4J or S, the skyflashes/7E-2s are great for easy headon kills. The F-4 is probably pretty good in a downtier, but if you get uptiered even to 12.3 then you have to face mirage 2ks, which is a better plane in every single way except missile count
And you’re not even gonna have a chance if you start fighting F-15s or Su-27s
Not something I experience. AIM-7F are literally the best radar missiles in the game and F-4J and F-4S are easily the best 12.0s in the game rn
and even if you include 11.7 and 12.3 its still very strong with only EJ Kai, Mirage 2000 and Bison being better. EJ Kai would be pretty equal if F-4J/S carried AIM-9L in game.
No, the 7F is better on every aspect
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Not for close range shots at all, the 7E-2 is much better
I thought E-2 are better on ‘blank range fire’ because it starts guidance faster than 7F does Xd
I’d take basically every plane there over the F-4J except for the fgr or tornado
Not at all, you can have a look, the 7F is the best Sparrow Guided weaponry data (in-game values) Honorable mention for Jaek_ for making amazing videos on missile on YouTube If you want to reach enlightment, then you have to spade the Italian heli line, no talisman/ premium/ boosters - Google Spreadsheets
They are, they’re very good for 5km shots and below, though I usually shoot them within 2km to give a small chance to react
Have a look at what? I’ve used both lol, the 7E-2/skyflash is much better at very close headons
Maybe on initial introduction but not rn in game.
Also no, the 7F has no delay
I send you a link with every in game missile data, the 7F is the best sparrow on any aspect
Dude I don’t really care for a chart when I can say from personal experience using them both many times, the 7E-2 is better at close range, and that’s all
wait wth where the hell did AIM-7F/M’s guidance delay in the chart go?!
noooo!
my F-4J(UK) got fooled once again! XD
- no HMD compared to F-4J
- slightly worse RWR compared to F-4J
- no AIM-7F but Skyflash
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The skyflash literally has the (DF) label for “dogfight” because they were made to be good at close range, which they are