Which gaijin wont do, they dont get rid of vehicles unless they replace them with something
In theory the JAS39A could be replaced by the JA37D
And Jas39C replaced by JAS39A
If my bug reports ever get noticed by a tech mod then the viggen would be able to easily deal with planes at that br as admittedly it matters more about the missile at top tier unfortunately
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No, it only had illumination flares. And anyway, if the boy 401 pod we have in game was added before the 90s then what’s the problem with an earlier ja37 configuration
Edit: I’ve also seen online claims that tws was added for the radar later than that pod (but before the D) so that’s another unique way to differentiate a new variant
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It’s easily added
It’s essentially a name change for 3 of the planes
Ja37C → Ja37
JA37D → Ja37C
JAS39A → JA37D
Jas39C → JAS39A
Hardest thing to deal with is the JA37Ds br as it might end up like an F4F ICE depending if AMRAAMs are added
But AMRAAMs could be saved for the Ja37Di leaving the JA37D at 12.7(?) with RB74(M) and RB71B (if enough info can be found on it)
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Since 1979?
1980
Hmm okay
Huh I stand corrected then, I practically assumed it wasn’t BOL pods considering jets like the F14B, Harrier, and Gripen that use BOL flare pods, have the modification saying “Flares/Chaff BOL”. It seems the Ja37D is the only jet where the BOL pod modification is named “Flares/Chaff” as provided by your picture.
As I mentioned before, as long as the Ja37 or the J35F2/J variants have flares, I’m fine with it, but if they don’t, then it’s not worth implementing as they would be DOA, especially if they are placed at 11.3br.
Currently look at jets like the F-1, and F4C, both are 10.7br and they lack flares, which as a result makes them pretty awful to play as they have no defense against IR missiles, especially all-aspect ones.
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The issue isn’t the aircraft
It’s the fact that the A-10 and Su-25s are still some of the most popular premiums but they plague 9.3 upwards so unfortunately everything transonic aircraft or early supersonic is therefore DOA, there’s no harm to the drakens being added and can quite easily perform well
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Okay im gonna make a large comment to respond to a lot of comments I forgot to address.
When I said “JA37C with chaff” I was trying to hint towards the chaff dispenser from the JA37D, which I mentioned in the post was introduced at the same time (and even produced before) the flare dispenser. So there is no reason to not include them.
I Think the JAS39C was a necessary addition at one point or another. Sadly the JAS39A lacks identity which is a topic entirely in itself. They should try and rework it into a JAS39A Early since the Rb99 came a few years after the 39 entered service. The 39A model is also completely inaccurate and just a copy paste 39C. The countermeasures are also wrong, surprise surprise. The JAS39A is a completely different plane to the 39C but gaijin hasn’t put the resources in to address that.
I reported this issue but it still hasn’t been addressed. The AJ/AJS CM dispenser is entirely incorrect.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/yGrOwXpY9sv5
Considering the KB dispenser was developed and fitted during this time period it makes sense that they would develop a counterpart to the JA37. Though I’ve been a bit skeptical if this was ever used since the C-mod package is where we get the first mention of countermeasure compatibility.
Biggest problem the JA37D will face is that the game is heavily centered on RWR since there is no secondary field of information. Datalink isn’t modelled between aircraft and jammer pods which gave both the AJ37 and JA37 additional information isn’t in the game. You’re very blind to additional information in its current state. Even if the airframe itself offers a lot more than both the F.3 Late and F-4F ICE.
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It will be in the future but not now
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I mean it’s clear that Gaijin added the 39C simply because
A: They had promised to give Sweden the JAS39C
B: “Equalize” the Gripen balancing since having Sweden stuck with an earlier version made no sense.
While I don’t necessarily agree that the game needed the JAS39C I think we definitely needed a sort of “progression” between the early and later gripen. And while you could technically do this in a few years with the later air to air weaponry, I feel like it makes more sense to have the 39A represent a “90s” Gripen where the JAS39 was expected to carry out a similar role to the Viggen predecessor, using similarly dated weaponry. F-14A is represented in this manner for a similar reason.
Still I agree that as tradition with every other Swedish vehicle the JAS39, both the A and C model, were rushed to release and now both aircraft poorly represent its capabilities, which yknow, is nearly similar to the JA37C / JA37D situation im describing.
Eh, its more of gaijin wanted to add the JAS39C at the same time to the UK but they realized they would need to make a difference between the two and primarily focused on the A model which is why the C is so basterdized. If gaijin wanted to implement the gripens correctly the A wouldve needed to be added when the F16C had been added. That way the C could’ve been added to both nations with more time to work on it. Thats just not how it went, Britain needed a top end fighter and gaijin went down the path of kinda power creeping the A. Dont get me wrong uts incredibly good for 13.0 but when the .7 difference exists with ARH the A becomes meaningless imo. Also why has RB75T not been given to other aircraft?
This aged like wine
Reposting reports here in case JA37DI Discussion gets removed since its in dev section.
Fixed (1)
Accepted (6)
Suggestion (4)
Not a bug (3)
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JA37C/D - PS-46/A Radar range (needs more sources)
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[DEV] Ja37Di is missing the upgraded VERSION OF Aim 9L (reworked report)
No label (3)
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I made this one so long ago that it ended up being not a bug bc i did make a mistake but they added in the missing functions i originally had before it was accepted so it ended up being useless
Thats why i updated it so many times lol
Also how are you getting yours accepted so fast
Im just harassing my fellow bug mod about it. Not only about my reports but others aswell.
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If nothing gets changed about the current JA37Di I will bug report the JA37D as having the wrong designation since its entirely a JA37C. The old JA37C will have to be named JA37 “Late” or something. Technically the Chaff dispenser was produced before the Mod package to support it so there must be some sort of leverage to give the current 37C countermeasures while still being called JA37.
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A historically accurate Ja37 from the 80s would be the Ja37D with upgraded 9Ls (RB71B was early 90s)
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