J-7D. The most broken plane at this time

Im done with that piece of shit. with every single tier 8 CN unlocked and sales coming soon i’m looking for a premium that have “okay-ish across the board” performance than “Good missile dogshit everything”.

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welcome to war thunder. every plane sucks in full uptiers, again youre clearly clueless

edit: no wonder youre chat banned youre insufferable

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Straight outta your ass considering every plane put their flare dispenser right next to their fuckin engine or adjacent so the seeker will just go after the flare anyways unless you’re too stupid to be right like going neg G after flaring in F-4J or top flare phantom adjacent which makes your flare useless.

you dont even know how missile mechanics work and youre talking shit lmao

because you think the j7d is so bad how about you point out some better 10.7? shouldnt be hard if its that dogshit

I know better than you, who doesn’t own the vehicle subjected to discussion. you’re here just to pick fight.

no you dont, you’ve shown that pretty clearly

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again you do know how battle ratings work right? also the f5 is better in a dogfight but thats about it, it gets 2 9js you get 4 pl5bs, if you cant convert that into kills youre abysmal at the game.

also its really telling how delusional you are when you called pl5bs useless multiple times when theyre objectively the strongest missiles at the battle rating if you exclude the 9ls on a10s. still waiting on the examples of better 10.7s btw

Relax, I’m just explaining how it works + I have 300 games with J-7E with 64% WR (That plane is 11.3 btw)
The best way to launch PL-5B is at an angle from above the target, keep in mind most NATO Jets flare dispensers fly downwards so when u fire the missile from above the flare is further away than the engine relative to the missile seeker, And once again the acceleration paired with smallest FoV makes it the best flare resistant missile
It’s a fact not an opinion that the PL-5B is very flare resistant

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It’s literally 3/4 of below 11.3 BR form of engagement other than 3rd partying, 9J or 9E doesn’t matter when you can just pop away every single adversary missile with one flare tap and force them into dogfight. you really don’t know what you’re talking. I’m not even gonna mention how you don’t have J-7D again considering you don’t even play 10.7 to begin with to make informed statement on this BR range.

you should probably learn to play the game if you struggle hitting people with pl5bs. they shouldnt even see it coming if you were playing right. and if they do see it coming? guess what you dont have to dogfight the f5 you’re faster if he pulls in you can just extend away, if you were playing the aircraft right you’d have an height advantage and at least 2km of distance from each other, and i forgot to mention, most people you fight arent f5, and you can outdogfight 90% of aircraft at the br

im not even going to try to make you understand what a br bracket is anymore lol

this plane is carried by Flight performance imo, being able to twist F-4 and Flogger balls and down them with 3 30mm dink is just so powerful considering it doesn’t have similar missile suite to it’s 11.3 compatriot.

Anyway PL-5B Seeker size is literally just 0.1 smaller than it’s compatriot, all things considered it really isn’t that powerful because only the blindest mf on earth doesn’t tap flare when they enter engagement. even outside engagement, when minimap doesn’t lit up red and i’m pulling away from engagement I still from time to time pop flare every 2 seconds or so.

The quality of PL-5B and by extension J-7D is very overstated and relies on really blind people or overly preocuppied ppl considering the plane gun is so bad that it better of taking its gun off or replacing it with 60 rounds N-30 cannon which shell doesn’t nosedive after 200m out of the barrel.

the gsh23 isnt great, but its not that bad my guy. its perfectly usable

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You people are mythical being istg.

That’s true but what are these missiles?

  • Aim9D/G Good energy but very long burn time
  • Aim9J/P Very low range
  • Magic1/PL7 Overall decent but less energy than PL-5B
    If any of those missiles are fired at you from range u have a much longer time to react

That’s also true unless u fire it from 1.5-2km to avoid a gun fight but u greatly underestimate the amount of blind people
Most people have a blind spot from above. they simply don’t look up. most of my kills with the J-7E are with the PL-5B fired from above at low flying targets. F-4S? just food

This is the part that I hate.

This is gamble. all of this is gamble. the fact that I can’t accurately measure the probability of someone not flaring my missile or SOMEONE ELSE missile and flaring mine accidentally is the thing I hate about playing with missile in general. and idk how, but my matchmaking seems to put me with people that have 360 degree screen and vision that just nullifies any positioning i got.