Why is this plane so half assed? Its turning like a brick (way worse than any other draken), lacking maneuver mode, ejection animation, RB74s (aim-9Ls) and the radar antena isnt tilting to the sides. And its also lacking 30 rounds in the magazine
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The maneuverability issues have been addressed in the .31 update that should come out tomorrow. But yeah as you said, it is missing a lot.
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What are you on about with RB74?
Also you didn’t link a RB74 you linked the Finnish J35XS carrying a R13M
Also your claim for ammo is coming from where? It’s missing ammo because the J config removed one of the guns to add the avionics to be able to guide RB27 missiles. The remaining gun did get an additional upgrade to its total ammo but that’s historical
It’s really not, it’s mainly missing the flight performance and the Johan Gul Camo it has on the dev, aside from that there’s nothing to add to the J35J until gaijin decides RB72 is good and I doubt we’ll get that for a Draken.
It was not the intention, just got a picture from the internet. Havent provided any other info too
Fair enough, but still where did you get the idea it mounted RB74?
the J-35J is from 1987. They didnt mounted a look down radar because the whole modernization must be cheap, so they gave it the ability to carry aim9L to engage head on low flying targets. By this time Sweden already had the viggen and the draken mains role always have been as an interceptor. Thats why it didnt had any flares in swedish service.
That’s not really an answer nor is it backed up with any actual evidence.
Also I don’t know why you keep adding a dash to the J35J, China is the one that uses a dash on their jet the J-35
Even the swedish Musuem shows only for the Viggens and Gripens. Hell even the JA37A couldn’t mount the 9L as it needed the modified rails that were more similar to the AJS at the time.
RB74 - Arboga Robot Museum RB74 - Arboga Robotmuseum
Now if they did mount it, then it should be easy to provide evidence but I highly doubt it given I’ve never seen evidence for RB74 on the J35J
The first RB74 was delivered in 1985 the J35J did remain in service until 1999 iirc but without any other modifications as it remained the same since it was upgraded. There’s almost no reason so have it upgraded when the Viggen and Gripen were in development/being updated especially when the Viggen was getting priority for things like RB73 and RB72 which I have images of
Additionally if the Draken was still worth upgrading than it would’ve likely received the full list of changes from when SAAB sent the J35F1 and F2 to us neither of which ended up happening given the F2 returned to the F10 group without its modifications going to any other Drakens. Nor do the Drakens show up for any of the other experimental weapon tests through the 90s like the Gripen and Viggen.
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What are those ones? I’ve heard of them before but what these missiles are specifically about, in comparison to other ones? IIRC one is similar to R-23T and other one being…?
Its very hard to see any information in the documents we have in the internet, probably because they are base in old data? J 35J (not J35J) was removed from service in 1998/99 which is very recent and very late to not take RB74 into consideration. Maybe the plane was capable, but never ended up operating with it to an extent of providing solid information. During this time, the Draken was mainly intended to deal with An-12s and Su-24s.
The only source i can give is the Swedish Air Force Historic Flight which operates some SwAF planes, including the J 35J.
Edit:
Polish museum mentioning the AIM-9L:
Looks like the two extra pylons below the wing intake was the one thaty could carry the RB74.
Third party source, at best secondary or pilot testimonies.
Maybe secondary source? Uncertain how Gaijin looks at info from museums that aren’t from the manufacturer/operator countries.
That is from a game isn’t it? So not at all usable as a source.
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I found this:
Whish is also museum info from this document: ( https://www.aef.se/Avionik/PDF-filer/System_J35_krigsfunktion_med_STRIL.pdf ) Page 92.
So apparently the upgrade to newer missiles was deemed to expensive and they thought the two extra pylons would make up for that instead.
Note also that an aircraft’s armament in WT often is subject to balancing decisions (Swiss jets, I’m looking at you…), and in my personal experience BR placement often seems to have a higher priority than complete authentic historical armament.
Still it is worthwhile to provide the developers with suitable sources in the form of bug reports or suggestions, discussing also the implications such changes in armament may have on balancing and BR placement.
But why does the J35XS in Game have not its Soviet Missels? Would it be then hard to balance?
So third party sources? That’s not primary sources this means nothing. As for what Necronomica mentioned it’s kinda what I pointed out, the Drakens were too old by this point to be worth upgrading.
You can not use those sources. All those image I posted? Those are primary sources those are trust worthy. If you really want info on these vehicles I recommend asking in the swedish vehicle forums as most of the active swedish players are far more knowledgeable than some random polish site.
Isnt it still missing the rocket chair thing when you J out still? I bug reported it during the dev server and got ignored by gaijin
Isn’t that also a third party source?
Sweden more so SAAB had been looking at new radar :†missiles and there were a few planned for the Flygvapnet.
RB72 essentially a R24T with a magic 2 seeker and 15km range with 20 functional units made, had it not been dropped it would’ve been the first IRCCM missile produced.
RB71A or active sky flash which is its own fox 3 sky flash thing
RB73 a ramjet designed missile which leads into the creation of S225RX which then leads into Meteor
S225RX
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Found this old Draken promotional video that SAAB themselves have taken the time to dub over to English:
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I mean why does J35D and J35XS have it but not J35J that makes no sense
Tbf it shouldn’t matter given the cockpit images of the J model should still have the same ejector seat system as on the earlier models