It's Jammin' Time: Electronic Countermeasures

watch them not give the F14 ECM even tho it has it

If a radar is locked on a target on x azimuth, y elevation and z range, it’s going to ignore all radar contacts that don’t have these parameters. RGPO changes the range the radar sees, so the radar is now locked onto a point in space with nothing in it; if the fake range is far away and rgpo stops, the radar will try to maintain lock onto a empty point in space with nothing in it and fail, thus breaking lock and forcing the radar to restart search for the target again.

You can see how this can be really annoying for radars with fox-1 missiles that need to maintain lock, although against radars with tws you might want to keep it on to avoid being targeted in the first place or to trick the enemy radar into lofting a fox 3 missile away from you. It’s also mostly useless if you are within visual/acm range, as the enemy can see where you are anyway and relock you instantly and/or get a lock to launch their IR missiles.

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Some jammers only work well concerning positions where there located like GPS spoofing

Would benefit visual range combat and optical sensors. One of the fears from a friend in aerospace is if electronic jammers get so good it could weaken stealth fighters as you do need to hit the enemy therefore cheaper planes like 4.5 become more economical. But that’s overall unlikely.

I have a feeling Jamming will be very simplified in WT like noise modulated jamming, range jamming (for naval and what not) etc.

maybe but it could end up like DIRCM did and be completely broken

i give it 60% of being op

Thoughts, since the ongoing Nuclear Thunder event?


Seeing how effective ECM Mk. 1 and ECM Mk. 2 (initial & upgraded/buffed ECM) for the bombers are, I think I/we could revisit this again to maybe try and fine tune some aspects around this suggestion.

One of my first thoughts were:

  • No timer on aircraft carrying ECM pods. My reasoning is simple: you’re already sacrificing either a drop tank or a missile (or two). Why handicap yourself more by limiting your defence? Aircraft with integrated ECM (Gripen, Eurofighter, Rafale, and others) would still have a timer.

  • Backtracking slightly here, but instead of a timer for the overall use of ECM, it would be a cool-down. For example, if Rafale activates ECM, they get roughly ~60 seconds (as an example) and then a further 15-30 seconds cool-down when that’s up before it can be used again. No, it cannot be stopped/paused while it’s on.

does TU95 ECM ? cause if so its complete buns B52 seems to be a bit better

made think more about a humbucker pickup of an electric guitar than headphones, 2 coils out of phase to cancel noise.

They use the same ECM in game atm.

The noise ecm in game is right now completely overtuned to the point that it completely negates any kind of radar missiles, probably to keep the patriot/s300 sam systems from unintentionally shoot down the bombers before they were able to drop.

I assume that in regular gameplay it would be toned down to reasonable levels, but the problem is that the noise jamming is not detected at all by the anti radar missiles, when that’s exactly one of their uses in reality. It also doesn’t show up at all on the RWR when it should, even to the point of blinding it completely at short range.

Its repeater jamming in game not noise jamming

The ingame ecm shows up as full line of clutter, which is very characteristic of noise jamming.
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If there is ingame repeater jamming, then it’s used in paralel with noise jamming to instantly defeat any attempt at radar lock from scan radar or acm mode.

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If its noise jamming it should show up in search mode too

But it does? Unless they have changed something in the latest update, if you point your radar at the bomber in search mode it will show a bright line in the exact direction of the bomber, even though it doesn’t show up on RWR or show up as a target for anti radar missiles like it should.

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I thought it didnt mb

What we have in game is noise jamming

ECM in game atm works by causing false signals for radar parameters, including things like distance, velocity, and angular parameters. In a random manner.

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I thought it was repeater because the solid line did not show up on search radar, atleast for me idk

Hope to see these added back to the bombers.

Stumbled on this easy to understand video which explains the history of jamming and the different types/forms of jamming. Only ~14 mins long, but it is a (mostly, some parts are ill-explained but the majority is good) good watch for anyone interested:

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