Don’t you need “additional requirements” to actually play the game ?
What’s the point in having emails log in hell why connect to the internet lol
It shouldn’t be a requirement to join random junk squadrons just to get a vehicle. Its a perversion of the clan system and shouldn’t have been done
Out of things to say?
it literally takes 0 effort to click and join them. you dont have to interact with the players at all if you dont want to
Is it tho ?
I play IL-2 1946, you don’t need an email to log in to that you can play it right off the bat
Heck, being SQV is better than most ways a vehicle can be added(after other issues with the TT placement).
Order of best way a vehicle can be added to the game, of best to worst:
TT
SQV
Premium
Event/BP
And as pointed out, you don’t need to play the tree to get an SQV, which is great.
I should not have to go far out of my way to find a grind squadron to begin with…
Squadron vehicles should exist solely to provide funny flavour vehicles that do not fit anywhere in the game and exist solely for collectors and joyriding in test flight, maybe messing around occasionally.
If you think there’s any weird italian designs like that, go ahead. F117 is the perfect squadron vehicle - it has zero use, zero relevance.
“But isn’t that for event vehicles?” Event vehicles shouldn’t exist as currently implemented - FOMO is terrible consumer treatment.
But if you want to put an actually usable plane into squadron vehicles, then please don’t. You can grind out a 500k RP TT vehicle in ~100 games. You can sit down one weekend and no-life it if you so please.
You need 3-4 months for a squadron vehicle no matter what you do. They’re premiums without premium benefit.
Actually usable squadron vehicles punish players joining squadrons with friends (small squadron size), too. I joined my squadron because I had fun with the leader one match and we got along. My squadron has good vibes. It also gets 7k research/cycle.
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from main menu. it is a couple clicks to join a random grinding squadron
Narrowing down the message here for you, it’s also not as simple as you say. You say this like you have a squadron lined up ready to go. I’m not going to continue this further.
just go to squadron menu, click on “Hide without auto-accept applications”, click through the list, find a half decent one that isnt full, and join it
This is what I mean, but with better wording. Especially the last parts
idk, some of them just make more sense as squadron vehicles than tech tree. i dont have anything against solid squadron vehicles
If they’re viable vehicles and not just interesting things that exist but don’t have a real use - then you’re essentially selling a premium without premium benefits.
Reason is that they take an absurdly long time to unlock with no real, viable ways to speed it up. Furthermore, if they are viable then a negative incentive is made against players forming squadrons with buddies with emphasis for vibes as large squadrons are a neccessity to get sufficient research per cycle.
how else would stuff like YAH-64 be added then?
I have zero ideas about helicopters, but:
If it’s actually useful, why not a premium or TT?
Is it some weird contraption that has zero relevance or use to Warthunder but is satisfying from a historical or gimmick/collector pov? Sure, go to squadron.
There is already premium US apache.
There is also a tt counterpart (sort of) which is AH-64A
It is prototype of AH-64, carries hellfires so it’s not that bad
Foldered TT or another premium apache.
I see “similar design with slightly different weapons or engine” appear a few times across WW2 tiers so don’t see that as a deal breaker for premiums.
Premium is far worse as we seen with the Finnish 109 they can adjust the when and where they please for events
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Struggling to understand the complaint.
Premium gives you: Efficient research, increased sl and RP rewards.
At prop tiers it’s not that significant, but starting rank 4 it does get significant.
Squadron gives you none of that. Squadron just forces you to pay GE if you want the vehicle in a reasonable time frame - you can’t even no-life sweaty progamer high skill grind it out over a weekend - which you theoretically can for TT vehicles.