Italy and Germanys top tier future

helis will be a welcome addition to NE

(I hate helis so will take extreme pleasure in killing them)

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The only good heli, is a burning fuselage tumbling to the ground

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So make the A2G gamemode good first.

Then and only then, should we really consider new stuff

and the only good alive heli is the one in my gunsight or my missiles terminal guidance

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We can’t just do multiple things at a time. That just ruins the game for many people and makes it significantly harder for gaijin to balance (Especially when adding new mechanics/guidance types)

Fix shit, then buff/nerf other stuff as needed
Not both

Or hear me out.

Do both.

Gaijin hasnt gotten AI SPAA to work in a balanced way despite communtiy complaining for years.

So if they arent or cant fix them, just give us the tools we actually need to deal with them.

and even if they fix the SPAAs, I still see 0 argument for why better A2G couldnt or shouldnt be added to aircraft.

and again, most of what I want added arent even stronger than weapons already found on other nations.

GNSS-Only Spear-3s would still largely be a lot like GBU-39s which have been in-game for years. Given the need for precision and the Tpod range limits.

We are likely going to see a new weapon type in the coming major update. Its probably either CBUs or Cruise missiles. I dont see why either should be artificially limited for the sake of GRB.

No.

You want gaijin, the company with a long track record of not being able to implement stuff properly, to implement two different new things at the same time, which will heavily affect a lot of vehicles in various gamemodes.
And somehow expect the game to stay healthy? (or somehow not become less healthy than it already is)

Because GRB is the main gamemode in this game.
You HAVE to take it into account for any changes made to aircraft.
Simply because they are also in grb.

Cry all you want, that’s how it is

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I want Gaijin to stop making GRB the first and foremost (and usually) only concern when adding anything related to aircraft.

“No cant add that aircraft, it would be too strong in GRB”

“no cant add that weapon, it would be too strong in GRB”

“no cant add that weapon, it isnt usable in GRB” (Literally the arugment we had for about 2 years as to why they wouldnt add ASMs)

It wasnt even the original gamemode.

But this attitude is unfortuanately why aircraft will always be artificially nerfed and why people will always vote against anything that makes aircraft better.

Im sure some GRB mains will be arguing that the Fox-3 buffs were bad for GRB somehow

Definetly seen some people arguing that adding ASMs is pointless because they cant be used in GRB.

That still does not change the fact that it’s one of if not the biggest gamemodes for gaijin and a massive moneymaker.

Cutting ground rb out from considerations when adding new stuff is much worse than not adding J-out/crash rewards to air sim.

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Nor is cutting Airmodes out of consideration when adding new stuff any better.

As I said. It is time to end the current necessity to artificially limit aircraft solely because of a different gamemode. Because where will it end?

Will ECM be denied because it would make aircraft better vs SAMs?

And they arent going to do that if people continue to argue that GRB is the onyl gamemode that should matter, because at that point, you might as well just argue for the deletion of all aircraft, ships, helis and soon infantry from the game entirely. Make it exclusively tank thunder.

I’m not.

I’m simply saying that it’s really short-sighted to just say “fuck grb” when asking for new features that will affect grb.

that’s about as short-sighted as buffing one plane incessantly for no real reason (other than “muh realism”) without taking actual balance into account
Oh wait…

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You can’t just completely ignore one gamemode (or other vehicles) because you don’t like it (or them).
That’s an incredibly biased point of view and will only lead to the game becoming less healthy than it already is

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So?

No ECM?
No TRDs?
No new Radar modes like GMR or SAR?
No new Tpods?
No IRST upgrades? (would include A2G modes for them too)
No new A2G weapons? (CBUs, Cruise missiles, etc)
No CM overhauls?
No Damage model improvements?
No Intergrated ESM?
No RWR interface Improvements?
No Overhauls to CCRP/Proper lofting mechanics?

heck, should new aircraft even be added, especially Gen 5s like the F-35?

etc etc

You can basically argue that a LOT of what is left to be added to aircraft will affect GRB just as much as it will affect any airmode.

So should they all be denied purely because of GRB?

and quite frankly, tbh, yes.

Because at the moment its basically “Frick ARB, ASB and NE” when ever anyone asks for new features for air modes, especially now with NE. But that seems to be perfectly acceptable.

I have yet to see any disucssion for new things being added to aircraft without someone arguing against it in the context of GRB, and that is just annoying. And even when it doesnt affect GRB at all, like ASMs, people argue against them because they cant be used in GRB, you literally cant win.

Nor can you completely ignore 4 gamemodes for the sake of 1.

Im proposing that the current status quo changes. They actually stop being lazy and come up with an entirely different way of balancing aircraft in GRB that doesnt involve screwing them completely over in every other gamemode

Imagine if you turned around and said that APS wasnt allowed in GRB because it was too strong on AI tanks in NE or that stronger SAMs wouldnt be added because they would be too good in NE. GRB mains would riot.

But god forbid air mains asked for something new on their aircraft to use in air modes. Im surprised Ive yet to see anyone arguing against Next Gen SRAAM or BVRAAMs because they might be too strong in GRB. (but defiently would have ground mains getting annoyed that aircraft got something, they always do)

So yes.

I think you could add:

  • SAL Brimstone 2s
  • GNSS Spear -3s
  • Storm Shadow
  • ALARM
  • APKWS
  • Marte-ER

to the Typhoons right now without that much of an issue.

But long term, they need to stop dictating aircraft A2G loadouts solely by what they consider balanced in GRB.

Because currently they are entirely and completely dictated by GRB, even weapons that can’t be used in GRB like Anti-Ship missiles were denied for a long time because they couldn’t be used in GRB, even now they are a super low priority which is why Seagles are missing from the Shars or Exocet from the SE.

So I want them to end that. Find a different way to balance more powerful loadouts on aircraft without just not adding them.

Who cares if they add full strength, LOAL mode 3 MMW Brimstone 3s if they cost 3000sp in GRB.

Who cares if the Tornado GR1 has ALARM if taking more than 3 costs 2000+ sp.

But importantly, were totally usable in game modes like NE that now gives you a reason for you to actually equip A2G weapons in an air mode

Its time to stop this idea that the only game mode that matters is GRB.