Italy and Germanys top tier future

Hey guys,

I recently started grinding the German tech tree more seriously after getting a taste of the Leopard 2A7HU and falling in love with it. Naturally, I decided Germany would be the next logical step. However, after looking into what both nations might have to offer in the future, I am starting to wonder whether I might be better off finishing Italy and then continuing another tech tree.

From what I have found, Germany’s future lineup does not look particularly exciting compared to Italy’s. In some ways, Italy feels like Germany with more variety. While the Ariete is not exactly impressive, Italy has access to fantastic light tanks like the Centauro 2, decent CAS options with the Italian Eurofighter, which generally seems better than the German one, and potentially some interesting additions in the future.

There is also the possibility of Italy receiving vehicles like the KF51, the Spanish Leopard 2E, or even the Romanian M1A2 SEP V3, whereas Germany’s future additions seem a lot less exciting in comparison.

So, what do you guys think? Is Germany still worth grinding, or would Italy offer a similar, potentially even better top tier experience with more variety and interesting vehicles to look forward to?

Would be the worst kf51 from Hungary btw lmao

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Potentially yes. Although so far there is no KF51/NMBT outside of demonstrators. Romanian M1A2 hasn’t arrived yet (there is also a chance for K2 btw). And there is no sign of Spanish 2E to be added to Italy, as Spain isn’t an Italian subtree.
At this point of the time we can get serial Centauro 2, C2 Ariete and armor pack for 2A7HU, either as a researchable modification or a separate vehicle.

In all seriousness all depends on gajin and what they add Germany have been a huge developer in next gen mbts like kf51 and a.rc 3.0 and other things like boxer t40 or boxer tracked 120 and ofc all the leopards like 2a7a1 2a8 2a7+ 🤷‍♀️ it just all depends on what gajin adds

Also there’s no reason to believe the 2E would go to Italy. Spain isn’t a sub tree and has no Italian involvement. It would be German

At the moment, the German EFT is actually the better of the 3 for CAS as it gains the HOSBOs, which means it can run 12x IR Glide bombs, vs the other 8. Not a massive difference but a difference nonetheless

In all other respects so far, they have kept all the EFTs identical in terms of A2G, so its highly unlikely that the Italian or German ones will fall behind the British one in terms of CAS power (Britain should have the best A2G weapons available as most of them are being developed by Britain like Brimstone, Spear and Paveway IV)

Wouldn’t Italy get both? Since Italy and Hungary ordered it.

Probably but if im not mistaken then both countries get a version with the 120mm gun while Germany could theoretically get the original demonstrator with the 130mm

There’s 3 standard kf51s Hungary hasn’t ordered any but have been interested in kf51 Evo (the worst)
Italy have their own MBT loosely based on kf51.

Italy also has the massive advantage of not having German team mates every game, which IMO is the biggest problem with playing Germany.

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we are basically at the end of full on top tier additions for GRB now, there isnt many heavy hitters left tbh. I hope the focus returns to ww2 and cold war where the unique stuff that isnt another sodding leopard is

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add Yak-3s and Yak-9s to all the TTs you say?

:P

more questionably legitimate ammunition for russian aircraft you say?

KH38MT for more platforms it is then

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the Yak-130s do need a CAS buff

imo, you’re better off running extra brimstones instead
more anti-SPAA capability

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At which point it doesnt matter which of the 3 you run.

But technically only 1 of the 3 has 12x IR glide bombs, whilst the others have only 8.

if brimstone wasnt gimped there would be little need for HOSBO

Let alone that

Would be a miracle, although I doubt they would focus on such stuff even for nations which still miss a lot like Italy, as it doesn’t bring them as much money as top tier mbts and jet premiums.
Even with infantry they decided to start only from Korean War period.
PS I’ve recently enjoyed Swedish T 2 a lot, can’t wait for similar Italian planes: RS.14, Z.506B, Z.515)

didnt they say that it would be modern only first to not tread on elisted’s toes?

I honestly only think WT infantry is a paniced response to gaijin not knowing what to do now that the rush to 2020s tech is almost over (will be over once F-22 and F-35 are added, i suspect this year)

I do hope they have a sudden epiphany that cold war and ww2 is still cool and has far more options open to be added, and thats before the game needs to devolve into paper tanks and half build wundewaffe

Still, funnily enough brimstones are probably the meta munition rn for dealing with SPAAs and helis

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