Italy - Air RB - Performance Guide

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Legend/terms:

*All air speeds are IAS (Indicated Air Speed)

*All speeds and climb times are on AEC with the obvious exception of “MEC Settings” section

*Speeds are recorded after AEC radiators fully settle/stabilize to ensure accuracy/consistency both at 100% and WEP.

*Map used is Berlin (15.1 Celsius) for all speed, climb and performance measurements. Smolensk and Sicily are only used to adjust cooling settings once cooling settings are found the plane performance is measured on Berlin to minimize variables.

General Chart Terms:

AEC: Auto Engine Control

MEC: Manual Engine Control

0Rad: MEC setting to Fully closed radiator (fastest plane can go with 0 radiator Drag)

Max Speed Alert: When red warning alert appears on speedometer.

Control Lock Speed: Where elevator/controls start to lock up.

Min Ideal Turn Speed: Minimum Speed in a flat turn without contrails (no flaps)

Min Stall Speed: The slowest a plane can travel without stalling (no flaps)

Max Temp Oil/Eng: Max temperature oil/ engine can get before turning yellow

Climb Speed: The airspeed that the climb tests were done at.

Max Kph: Shows 100% throttle max speed in level flight at given altitude

Time w/WEP: Shows climb to 1000M with WEP followed by top speed in level flight with AEC

Hp drop: The altitude where a steep drop off in horsepower begins

Notes: Notes are any extra info that applies with the following abbreviations:

(H): Aircraft runs hot

(FS): Aircraft has fuel starvation

(DC): Aircraft has Drogue Chute

(AB): Aircraft has airbrake

MEC settings:

Eng Mix: Engine mixture setting %. “-” in chart, means to leave mixture at default setting. If there is a different value, it will be clearly stated as a percentage. (This affects very few aircraft)

Prop Pitch: Prop pitch setting %. Prop pitch will be shown in short hand “Prop100” = (prop pitch 100%) Prop Pitch can also have a color-coded prop pitch setting according to map temperature. Use Color coded Air RB Map Temperature guide to ensure proper settings

Rad Setting Oil/ ENG: Radiator settings will be shown in short hand “Rad100/50” = (Radiator100%oil/50%water). Radiator settings are shown Cold/Moderate/HOT climate. they are color coded accordingly blue/green/Red. Use Color coded Air RB Map Temperature guide to ensure proper settings.

Super Charger 100/WEP: Elevation to shift super gears 100%/WEP while traveling at indicated airspeed. Almost all chart gear shifts are set at 280kph in the chart. Gear shifts dont need to be precise more than within 100M, shifting up too soon is generally worse than shifting up late.

*For some planes like early Spitfires Prop Pitch adjustments are included under Super charger Column . Super Charger gear shift altitudes listed are for the prop pitch listed in the chart. Example: prop pitch adjustments to 100% at 6000M will look like “P100@6000” under super charger column.

MEC/0Rad WEP Top Speed: Shows top speed Using WEP @ 1000M for MEC and 0Rad (0/0 Radiator) This is used to show how much drag effect the radiator has comparatively.

Italy - Air RB Performance Guide:

Re.2001 Serrie 1, RE.2001 Gruppo 22, Re.2001 CB, RE.2001 CN: These planes benefit from MEC over AEC overall. Auto Radiator is broken, it closes to 0% during Throttle100% then opens fully to Rad100/100 using WEP. Significant increase to top speed with MEC +10kph. These planes run notably hotter than others and prop pitch was lowered to Prop90, making heat manageable at the cost of, approx, (+1/+1WEP) second added to every 1000M climb. Prop90 should be used up to 5600M then switched to Prop100. These planes do not gain additional cooling from high speed, they actually get slightly warmer at high-speed including dives. Oil Radiator Creates no perceivable Drag and can be fully open to 100. Engine hp drop around 4800M.

Re.2005 Serie 0: This plane benefits from MEC over AEC with better cooling. Radiator behavior is erratic similar to German Bf 109 fighters using AEC. Engine hp drop around 6400M.

*For reference only:
Prop Pitch can be adjusted without damaging engine.

C. 202, C. 202EC: This plane benefits from MEC over AEC overall. If using Prop100 Stay over 320kph on hot maps to prevent overheating. Oil Radiator Creates no perceivable Drag and can be fully open to 100. Although Prop100 is in chart due to simplicity of use, Prop90 is a better option overall. WEP performance with Prop90 is better due to ability to use for longer durations without overheat and higher cooling overhead. Prop90 can be used to 5000M Then Prop100 should be used. Prop90 has approx same top speed (-1/+0WEP Kph) as Prop100 with same Rad settings. Prop90 adds approx (+2/+1WEP seconds) per 1000M climb. Engine hp drop around 4900M.

*Cold maps chart setting is already Infi-WEP capable and does not need additional cooling. Prop90 should not be used for cold maps
*Prop90 on Mod and Hot maps is recommended with chart Rad settings for better heat management.
*Prop90 with Rad100/100 for Mod maps is also a good option additional cooling.

Details:
C. 202:
AEC:504/MEC:509/0Rad:514
Prop100 with Rad26/26 @ 1000M = 492/512WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad52/52 @ 1000M = 489/509WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop100 with Rad100/100 @ 1000M = 483/504WEP Kph (Hot)

***Infi-WEP settings (Up to 5000M Then Prop100 should be used.): ***
Prop100 with Rad26/26 @ 1000M = 492/512WEP Kph (Cold)

C. 202EC:
AEC:483/MEC:487/0Rad:492
Prop100 with Rad26/26 @ 1000M = 470/490WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad52/52 @ 1000M = 468/487WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop100 with Rad100/100 @ 1000M = 463/483WEP Kph (Hot)

***Infi-WEP settings (Up to 5000M Then Prop100 should be used.): ***
Prop100 with Rad26/26 @ 1000M = 470/490WEP Kph (Cold)

C. 205 Serie 1, C. 205 Serie 3: These planes benefit from MEC over AEC overall. Prop90 can be used to 5700M Then Prop100 should be used . Prop90 has approx same top speed (-2/+0WEP Kph) as Prop100 with same Rad settings. Prop90 adds approx (+2.5/+2WEP seconds) per 1000M climb. For the C. 205 Serie 3, the Oil Radiator Creates no perceivable Drag and can be fully open to 100. Engine hp drop around 6300M.

*Cold maps chart setting is already Infi-WEP capable and does not need additional cooling. Prop90 should not be used for cold maps
*Prop90 on Mod and Hot maps is recommended with chart Rad settings for better heat management.
*Prop90 with Rad100/100 for Mod maps is also a good option additional cooling.

Details:
C. 205 Serie 1:
AEC:539/MEC:539/0Rad:543
Prop100 with Rad-/8 @ 1000M = 521/543WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad-/56 @ 1000M = 517/539WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop100 with Rad-/100 @ 1000M = 512/533WEP Kph (Hot)

***Infi-WEP settings (Up to 5700M Then Prop100 should be used.): ***
Prop100 with Rad-/8 @ 1000M = 521/543WEP Kph (Cold)

C. 205 Serie 3:
AEC:528/MEC:528/0Rad:532
Prop100 with Rad100/8 @ 1000M = 510/532WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad100/56 @ 1000M = 506/528WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop100 with Rad100/100 @ 1000M = 501/523WEP Kph (Hot)

***Infi-WEP settings (Up to 5700M Then Prop100 should be used.): ***
Prop100 with Rad100/8 @ 1000M = 510/532WEP Kph

G.55 sottoserie 0, G.55 serie 1: These planes benefit from MEC over AEC with better cooling. Prop90 can be used to 6000M Then Prop100 should be used . Prop90 has approx same top speed (-2/+2WEP Kph) as Prop100 with same Rad settings. Prop90 adds approx (+2/+1WEP seconds) per 1000M climb. Prop90 has better overall results and is recommended over Prop100. Engine hp drop around 6300M.

*It is recommended to keep airspeed above 300-330kph to prevent overheating.

Details:
G.55 sottoserie 0:
AEC:507/MEC:507/0Rad:516
Prop100 with Rad4/4 @ 1000M = 497/514WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad16/16 @ 1000M = 589/507WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop100 with Rad24/24 @ 1000M = 584/501WEP Kph (Hot)

***Infi-WEP settings (Up to 6000M Then Prop100 should be used.): ***
Prop90 with Rad12/12 @ 1000M = 489/511WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop90 with Rad48/48 @ 1000M = 467/488WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop90 with Rad100/100 @ 1000M = 440/460WEP Kph (Hot) (Better cooling but still overheats)

G55.serie 1:
AEC:512/MEC:512/0Rad:522
Prop100 with Rad4/4 @ 1000M = 503/519WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad16/16 @ 1000M = 494/512WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop100 with Rad24/24 @ 1000M = 489/506WEP Kph (Hot)

***Infi-WEP settings (Up to 6000M Then Prop100 should be used.): ***
Prop90 with Rad12/12 @ 1000M = 494/516WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop90 with Rad48/48 @ 1000M = 471/493WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop90 with Rad100/100 @ 1000M = 444/464WEP Kph (Hot) (Better cooling but still overheats)

C. 205N2: This plane benefits from MEC over AEC overall. Prop90 can be used to 6000M Then Prop100 should be used. Prop90 has approx same top speed (-2/+0WEP Kph) as Prop100 with same Rad settings. Prop90 adds approx (+3.5/+2.5WEP seconds) per 1000M climb. The Oil Radiator Creates no perceivable Drag and can be fully open to 100. Engine hp drop around 6300M.

*It is recommended to keep airspeed above 300-330kph to prevent overheating.
*Cold maps chart setting is already Infi-WEP capable and does not need additional cooling. Prop90 should not be used for cold maps

Details:
AEC:525/MEC:526/0Rad:530
Prop100 with Rad100/10 @ 1000M = 508/529WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad100/40 @ 1000M = 505/526WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop100 with Rad100/100 @ 1000M = 498/520WEP Kph (Hot)

***Infi-WEP settings: ***
Prop100 with Rad100/10 @ 1000M = 508/529WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad100/100 @ 1000M = 498/520WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop90 with Rad100/100 @ 1000M = 496/520WEP Kph (Hot) (Up to 6000M Then Prop100 should be used.)

*Prop90 with Rad100/40 @ 1000M = 503/526WEP Kph (Mod) (can also be used on Mod maps as another option for Infi -WEP. Up to 6000M then prop100 should be used).

Bf 109 G-14/AS: This plane benefits from MEC over AEC overall. This version has different performance characteristics and radiator/cooling performance than the standard German Bf 109 G-14. This versions cooling characteristics are similar to the radiator on the Bf 109 G-10/K-4. Radiator max value of 94/104 drops to 90/100 after 3min of flight on some maps. Engine hp drop around 8400M.

G56: This plane benefits from MEC over AEC with better cooling. Prop90 can be used to 6200M Then Prop100 should be used. Prop90 has approx same top speed (-2/+0WEP Kph) as Prop100 with same Rad settings. Prop90 adds approx (+2/+1WEP seconds) per 1000M climb. Engine hp drop around 6300M

Details:
AEC:554/MEC:556/0Rad:569
Prop100 with Rad4/4 @ 1000M = 546/568WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad16/16 @ 1000M = 538/556WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop100 with Rad36/36 @ 1000M = 523/542WEP Kph (Hot)

***Infi-WEP settings (Up to 6200M Then Prop100 should be used.): ***
Prop90 with Rad4/4 @ 1000M = 544/568WEP Kph (Cold)

Premium Planes:

RE.2001 Gruppo: This plane benefits from MEC over AEC overall. Auto Radiator is broken, it closes to 0% during Throttle100% then opens fully to Rad100/100 using WEP. Significant increase to top speed with MEC +10kph. These planes run notably hotter than others and prop pitch was lowered to Prop90, making heat manageable at the cost of, approx, (+1/+1WEP) second added to every 1000M climb. Prop90 should be used up to 5600M then switched to Prop100 . These planes do not gain additional cooling from high speed, they actually get slightly warmer at high-speed including dives. Oil Radiator Creates no perceivable Drag and can be fully open to 100. Engine hp drop around 4800M.

IAR-81C: Leave everything on AEC, for simplest way to get best performance from this aircraft. Oil Radiator creates NO perceivable Drag even if set to 100%. This plane gets hotter as it goes faster. Engine hp drop around 4500M.

G55.S: This plane benefits from MEC over AEC with better cooling. Prop90 can be used to 6000M Then Prop100 should be used. Prop90 has approx same top speed (-2/+2WEP Kph) as Prop100 with same Rad settings. Prop90 adds approx (+2/+1WEP seconds) per 1000M climb. Prop90 has better overall results and is recommended over Prop100. Engine hp drop around 6300M.

*It is recommended to keep airspeed above 300-330kph to prevent overheating.

Details:
AEC:502/MEC:502/0Rad:510
Prop100 with Rad4/0 @ 1000M = 494/511WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop100 with Rad16/8 @ 1000M = 486/502WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop100 with Rad24/12 @ 1000M = 481/499WEP Kph (Hot)

***Infi-WEP settings (Up to 6000M Then Prop100 should be used.): ***
Prop90 with Rad12/4 @ 1000M = 488/509WEP Kph (Cold)
Prop90 with Rad48/24 @ 1000M = 467/488WEP Kph (Mod)
Prop90 with Rad100/32 @ 1000M = 458/478WEP Kph (Hot) (Better cooling but still overheats)

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excellent!!!
I love the italy plane but do not fly them anymore because of JU288s. :(

First off, I want to above all thank those of you in the community for constructive criticism, suggestions and ideas that made this guide what it eventually became. with that out of the way, I wanted to give an update to what the future looks like for this guide. Unfortunately, I will not be updating it moving forward, for several reason which I will go into in more detail here.

The changing of flight models by the developers with no notice or announcement to the players is incredibly disruptive and irresponsible. It will silently get players killed in game never knowing that their plane has been changed. in addition, instead of updating the chart as needed, I would literally have to recheck every single plane periodically just to make sure Gaijin didnt change something without telling anyone. This is exactly what they did with almost every single Japanese fighter at the beginning of the year,

In addition to helping players understand their aircraft better, the guide was also meant to highlight some issues found with aircraft performance so they might be adjusted by Gaijin. Examples of this are planes marked with an (H) in the aircraft notes overheat and have auto radiator settings that need to be adjusted. The yak fighter line is good example of this, where the radiators are incorrectly set to 111 Celsius when they should be set to 109 Celsius where the plane actually overheats. This issue is still present in game even after I tried to contact gaijin with this information with a technical moderator and they never responded.

After months of the previous version of this guide being in the Realistic battles section of the forums, a forum moderator decided to move all the charts into machinery of war. This was the same area where historical flight data was and created alot of confusion. It also scattered the guide in several different areas making it less organized. I tried to contact the moderators to put it back under RB at which point they refused. I wont get into more details about it, but in the end had to redo the whole guide in a very specific way because of this delaying the completion of the guide

I’ve tried to help make Air RB a better experience by providing knowledge and tools to better help players get into flying which the learning curve is pretty steep. I’ve also shown where there are things that could be easily fixed and made suggestions in that regard. Unfortunately, the lack of transparency of the developers making flight model changes, the lack of addressing the issues I found in testing, and the negative experience with the forum moderators I don’t see the purpose in providing a guide for a game that wants to willfully stay broken or less than what it could be.

Best,
MOBB

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Awesome! I got into MEC with this guide! Honestly I was wondering why my C202 wasn’t climbing as fast as stats said. Now I go faster and climb more effectively than most other C202’s, just by a bit but still.

awesome!!! the whole purpose of this guide was to simplify yet get the full performance potential of aircraft

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