I am sorry, but why? Why does a nation get another basically worthless 400k RP stepping stone in their SPAA line while there are nations like Israel that are missing their first SACLOS SAM system years after their introduction?
Before anyone suggests it - I don’t care what other natiions get; after all it’s 90% copy-paste (premium) slop at this point. I would like for massive tech tree gaps to be filled first before we start giving nations that have SPAA at 12.0 another 12.0 SPAA system.
EDIT because people asking for less slop is offensive apparently.
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You mean from 11.3* to 12.3.
Since there are 9.3 SPAA, and there’s no 10.3 - 11.0 lineups to allow for an OSA, or Tunguska level SPAA.
Roland 3 would be good for 10.0, but I don’t think Israel has that as an option.
& as for 11.3 onward… I don’t know what Greece has for options at this time.
The funny incorrect statement about copy-paste hurts your post.
If u really want elde please take it hell remove it from Sweden and give it to Israel
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You want the Elde and NOMADS take it lmao. You must be starved for literal slop
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I am astounded someone is upset by AA additions to Sweden when they’re effectively all that is left. If we got BAMSE, maybe they’d have a case for sooking; but elde and nomads is a bit odd.
Greece/Cyprus will fill those gaps, when it comes to Spaas they have some unique, prototypes and modified stuff, and can’t forget the copypaste ones ofc.
One of the said unique ones.
ASRAD-Hellas — Version of the ASRAD air defense system, produced by Rheinmetall specifically for Greece, with a quad Stinger launcher.
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I’m more surprised they are calling the worst 12.0 SPAA as some form of bias like it’s the 2nd coming of the BMPT but Sweden flavored.
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True that
Literally just “Worse than ITO in a nonexistent lineup” V2
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Erm aktualy you little ungrateful player, you have a lineup, you get 2 jets for CAP and CAS, a helicopter you shouldn’t have a CV90120 which should be 12.7 and 3 SPAA talk about being a glutton playing the most hand held TT
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Yeah, the ELDE isn’t good, but it still better than a Chapparal.
Like I am not saying that either the ELDE or the new SPAA is good, but why are we adding another 12.0 spaa to a tree that already has a 12.0 spaa when there’s still a tree that has nothing between 9.3 and 12.3?
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You are shooting something with DLIRCM, you have to spam missiles at that. Even the IRIS-T is gonna miss because of the magical DLIRCM.
Maybe read the second paragraph? I don’t care about what other nations get. I care about the fact that Israel doesn’t have anything from 9.3 to 12.3 in the SPAA line. No roland, no OSA, no nothing. You have to bring a 9.3 SPAA to 11.3 because there is nothing.
how do you justify this? compared to VT5, which sits at 11.7.
- less gun depression;
- less raw penetration on APFSDS;
- better PtW;
- better traverse in both horizontal and vertical;
- double frontal armour values;
- offset APFSDS with Tandem HEAT ATGM;
12.0 has no line up unless you want to bring 2 soon to be 3 SAM,s;
most of the time in 12.7 anyway.
and if this goes up, will they also look into the 2S25’s ?
lights with 3BM42 & 3BM60, all while equivalent lights have at best DM33 / 63
i mean technically its better, but when compared to their br’s, the chappy is FAR better in capability. though the impressive thing is, on stat shark the thing has 204 ground kills
It’s called sarcasm I should’ve added the /s
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Tbf none of us asked for it, there been plenty of negative feedback. Did you think Russian needed the most recent Pantsir? Gaijin simply chooses what they want and ignored what we need.
Most of us would like a solid IFV given the MK.IV is the worth 10.7/rank 9 IFV with no anti air ammo no anti air tracking, no armor, no survivability, it’s a fictional tank ect ect.
Or would kill for low tier SPAA or a 5.x plane for once
Especially when the funny articulated tor could have been added 😿
It’s not about having a good spaa it’s about having an spaa at the first place specifically a saclos sam for helis
Israel itself has options for 11.3-11.7
Thank you for actually reading the post and understanding what I mean.
