I think 11.0 is good for mk3.
I’d say 11.0 would be a good br for the Mk3s including the raam sagol. They used to be 10.7 before the raam was added and were probably doing a little too well hence why they were moved up. I think if they got a 5 sec reload and maybe the Lahat 11.3 would be fine but until then I’d say 11.0.
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Which others? Adding to this, you don’t even play with Israeli ground vehicles to give an opinion on the vehicle’s performance.
Which ones? The cannon and the smoke, because I already told you they’re not relevant? Adding to that, the only one you’ve played with is the premium 2D Merkava, which is very good and performs well, but you haven’t played the Raam Segol or any Merkava MK3. It’s clear you don’t know its real advantages or disadvantages if you haven’t even tried it.
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all the stuff you were wrong about, its hard to miss, theres a lot of it, for example you said the merk 3 had rounds in the turret like 3 times when it just doesnt
- I have friends who play them and I trust their opinions
- you keep comparing the merkava to tanks which you have either not played or only played a few battles in, which to be honest makes me just as qualified to talk about them, considering I’ve hardly been talking about the merkavas performance, mostly I’ve just been refuting your sometimes very questionable arguments
- bringing up the statcard opens a whole new can a worms. Considering your own stat card, my diagnosis is that in the merkavas you’re performing about the same as you normally do in the rest of your tanks, which is to say, exceedingly average at least in terms of k/d, but you’re losing battles a fair bit more (around 10%). So in the merkavas you’re either not supporting your team as well, probably playing more aggressively than you should in a merkava (considering you play a lot of lighter, faster tanks). Which is clearly not a playstyle that suits the merkavas because of all the reasons you yourself have listed. I myself often have trouble with this same problem, as most of the tanks I started playing were light tanks, so now I and terrible at playing heavier tanks. or youre just getting bad teams while playing israel at top tier, which may be true because you have similar stats in the merkava to your russian and US tanks, even though you perform decently in germany, the UK and sweden. if the UK werent there I would just put it down as benefiting from very good tanks, but because the UK is there I haven’t got a clue.
my advice is that you need to play the merkava more cautiously, its not a leopard, you shouldnt playing thinking that youll be able to survive being shot, stay around your team more and play more of a support role, defend caps more and dont snipe, use your high pen round to punish people who arent being cautious
Leo 2a4 copy? It’s called an Arjun and it’s nothing like a Leo. Also you can’t ignore the majority of Indian equipment which is Russian.
i take it you have no idea about the Arjun then, the Arjun is in fact a leo 2a4 copy
It was developed together with the german company kmw, the developer of the leopards as well.
You need to understand that there is multiple versions of a leo. And in at least the appearance the Arjun copied the leopard 2a4. Not necesarily the performance but in plans and doctrine
There are multiple variants of the Arjun too and the playstyle of the Arjuns will be nowhere near the Leos.
Karna (Rank VII; BR 10.0)
The Karna tanks are the parade variants of the Ajeya/Arjun tanks in the Tank-EX program, now seeing the inclusion of rubber tracks, a commander’s sight, and roof MG.
Stats:
- Armament:
- 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, SAMHO, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
- 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
- 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
- Armor:
- 40mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite)
- Mobility:
- ~65 km/h Forward
- 5 km/h Back
Arjun Mk.1 (P) (Rank VII; BR 10.3)
The Arjun Mk.1 (P) is one of the first prototypes of the Arjun, being built in 1993, having a more turret closer to the final model now features a raised gunsight, and was key in testing the new 120mm Rifled Cannon, and would lead to the creation of the PPS (Pre-Production Series ) Arjuns, PPS-1 - PPS-14.
Stats:
- Armament:
- 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH)
- 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
- Armor:
- ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite)
- Mobility:
- ~70 km/h Forward
- ~30 km/h Back
Arjun Mk.1 Early (Rank VII; BR 10.7)
The Arjun Mk.1 Early refers to the first limited-production run Arjuns based on the PPS-15, the final prototype and basis of the standard Arjun tank, PPS-15 built 1997 and the production run beginning in 1999. The Early Arjuns still used the sight found on the prototypes although now embedded in the turret 2A4-style and now has properly equipped GEN.1 Kanchan Armor, and now sees the inclusion of the commanders sight and roof MG.
Stats:
- Armament:
- 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
- 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
- 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
- Armor:
- ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite)
- Mobility:
- ~70 km/h Forward
- ~30 km/h Back
Arjun Mk.1 (Rank VII; BR 10.7)
The Standard Mk.1 is the regular serial production of the Arjun tanks from 2003-2018, with slightly improved Armor, a much improved gunner sight, and the shifting of the smoke grenades to the rear of the turret, and better electronation of equipment (although this doesn’t really matter in-game), and is now equipped with the SAMHO gun-launched ATGM.
Stats:
- Armament:
- 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, SAMHO, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
- 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
- 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
- Armor:
- ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite)
- Mobility:
- ~70 km/h Forward
- ~30 km/h Back
Arjun Mk.1 VIRCM (Rank VII; BR 11.0)
The Arjun Mk.1 VIRCM is a Arjun Mk.1 equipped with a soft-kill APS system designed by the Israeli-Company Elbit Systems, seeing its smoke launchers replaced with spectral smoke launcher mounted to the front of the turret and now is equipped with a IRCM emitter on the turret as well, similar to the T-90A’s Shtora system or the M1A1 HC.
Stats:
- Armament:
- 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, SAMHO, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
- 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
- 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
- Armor:
- ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite) + VIRCM Soft-Kill APS
- Mobility:
- ~70 km/h Forward
- ~30 km/h Back
Arjun Mk.2 (P) (Rank VIII; BR 11.7)
The Arjun Mk.2/IA prototype was first seen in 2018, being a Heavily-Upgraded Mk.I tank, seeing the addition of ERA and Composite blocks to the front and sides to the tank, a (TW) mine-plow, a upgraded gun and engine, new electronics, suspension, turret bustle, and GEN.2 Kanchan Armor. However with these additions, the Mk.IA prototype looses the commander’s sight and roof MG.
Stats:
- Armament:
- 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, SAMHO, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
- 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
- Armor:
- ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite, ERA)
- Mobility:
- ~70 km/h Forward
- ~30 km/h Back
Arjun Mk.1A (Rank VIII; BR 12.0)
The Arjun Mk.IA is the most advanced Arjun tank to date, first seeing production in 2019, and is slowly replacing the Mk.I Arjuns currently in service. The completed tank now features a 12.7mm RCWS, a LWS, upgraded commander’s sights, and over 70 additional upgrades to the tank.
Stats:
- Armament:
- 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, SAMHO, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
- 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (RCWS)
- 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
- Armor:
- ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite, ERA)
- Mobility:
- ~70 km/h Forward
- ~30 km/h Back
nicely learned of you. You are aware thats just add on armor on the original leo 2a4 copy right?
Its not a new constructed / developed tank, but just the upgraded version.
Facts stays arjun mk 1 in all its variants is a leo 2a4 copy co developed by kmw.
Mk2 are upgrades put onto that arjun mk1
No? first of all, the Arjun was not a direct copy in the first place. Secondly, there’s more than just Add-on armour. Each modification the Arjun gets the more it diverges from the Leopards. Your basically calling a widely - accepted indigenous tank a Copy of an existing tank which isn’t true.
learn reading
lws etc yes, still add ons
yes mk 1 still always will look like a 2a4 copy cause its based on it
buddy, most people call it the 2a4 copy for a reason, specialy cause it was co developed by kmw.
It is an indiginous tank, but still can be a 2a4 copy
KMW didn’t stick around and the DRDO did most of the work after the initial designs.
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The Arjun uses Kanchan, an indigenous composite Armour developed by India.
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The Arjun can fire SAMHO (an indigenous ATGM) and LAHAT (an Israeli ATGM).
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The Arjun can also fire PCB (an indigenous round).
Together with it’s slower speed, ERA, Indigenous composite armour, slower rate of fire compared to some Leo 2a4 variants, and domestic + Israeli ATGMs, the Arjun will have a completely different play style.
And still looks like a bad attempt of an leo 2a4 and again learn reading