Israel and China problem (seek and destroy) (AGAIN )

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The addition of the J11A and the F15 C Baz (improved) Meshupar were bad decisions.
They are not competitive aircraft at all, and when I say competitive I’m not even talking about being op or strong, I’m saying that having an average performance compared to other aircoraft of the same BR.
J11 A is the same aircraft as the J11 the only difference is the MAW system, and the r77 everything else is the same aircraft.
The soviet era radars are horrible in themselves, the r77 are also performing horribly, the RWR is another rubbish, keeping all that kit on the J11A makes the plane painful…That’s the word PAINFUL!!!

Why wasn’t the j11 B variant added? With a slightly better radar (Type 1474 radar/ KLJ-7 ), cockpit/ decent panel MFD, he should use pl 12 instead of r77.

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Now Let’s talk about the Israeli F15C, because it’s another painful plane.
It’s a similar problem with the J11A, why not give an F15C to Israel, similar to the US and Japan has it?
why does it have to be a modernized F15A ?
No HMD, no TWS, only shit RAM mod and sadness.
These are such stupid balancing decisions, why deny what is necessary for these nations, and opt for the worst possible option.

Currently in matches you hardly see F15 baz meshupar adn J11A.
There are almost no people playing with these planes because they are so bad.

Basically I don’t have a good fighter to play with China in the 13.7 and for Israel I only have the f16D.
2 nations whose topdogs are planes from the maijoir past patch (air superiority) modernized that perform very poorly nowadays on air frame 13.7

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Gaijin is so lazy about China, the j-11s still have copy and paste planes.

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It’s ridiculous, I’d rather not have any additions for these nations than that, it would save me tons of rp and sl

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The fact that the j-11a don’t even have access to pl-12 and pl-8, which are already in the game, is so annoying.

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yeah, lazy snail

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J-11A can only use Russian ones, because it is just an improved version of Su-27, J-11B can use Chinese missiles.

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Gaijin’s attitude towards China is just copy and paste, it’s really too lazy

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Literal irl picture of j-11a with PL12

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This is R-77

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It doesn’t matter if it’s an r77 or a pl 12 in the image, the important thing is that this patch should have included the J11B with the pl 12 and for Israel there should have been a standard F15C, not a modernized f15A, both nations (Israel and China) were greatly harmed by this decision.
The top dog these nations are non-competitive vehicles, even the f4ice has better radar than both planes.
If you compare the f4ice radar with the Israeli f15C radar, it’s a joke, the f15 doesn’t even have tws.
Things don’t get much better when comparing the avionics of the J11A with the f4 ice, J11A has a horrible radar with a horrible rwr.

Both the F4 ice and the Mig29 smt are br 13.3 and have infinitely better avionics F15C improved baz and J11.

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