Isn't T-72A/M too op at 9.3 now?

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In your opinion

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By saying T-72A needs to go to 9.7, you’re literally saying it’s better than KPz-70. Can you elaborate how/why ?

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Both can got to 9.7 and work perfectly fine once the game has been more decompressed

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Keywordonce.
T-72 against 10.7 would be nothing more than a slow “heavy” tank whose armor won’t work against plenty of threats.

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(once the game has been more decompressed)

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No point of this thread as it’s obvious decompression is needed, and moving single vehicles around would do nothing but move the problem elsewhere.

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  • I’d much rather the TURM III moved up before T-72
  • In an M48A2GA2 just about every 8.7+ vehicle is horrible to face, in fact T-72 is far from the worst things to face. Same if you use the T-55A vs XM-1 which it’s completely outclassed in mobility, gun handling and firepower, and it struggles to anything to the XM if it’s hull down.
  • Why not do the same for the T-72A at 9.7? It would get absolutely dumpstered by 10.7s like Vickers Mk.7/M1/Leo2A4 and all of the race cars like the Stryker and Type 16 which aren’t even 10.7. It would be flat out worse than the T-64BV and it can’t get 3BM42 since the gun can’t fire it.
  • Comparing tanks to a full BR below them to determine if it’s OP or not as a baseline is extremely stupid, you’d have to uptier the T32s because they destroy Tigers IIs and the T-54s stand no chance against Chieftains.

As if anyone respects yours

have you even played T-72A?

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Ok, you’ve clearly not anything I’ve said, I’ve never claimed to have played the T72A I’ve simply said… Can we make a fair comparison of everything it faces… Fkin simple.

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We are.
Because we’re including other 9.3s.

Simple.

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But no 8.3 or 10.3…

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If were saying vehicles shouldn’t be balanced based of +1.0 why would we then compare the T-72A to 10.3s which is the same thing we’re disagreeing with you on? You aren’t as smart as you think you are.

Besides, the ZTZ96A and Challenger Mk.2 destroy the T-72A so bad it’s not even funny.

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are you one of those that has nothing to say but has to have the final word?

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Are you one of those people who comment trying to guess what the other person is saying without having read their previous comments?

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These vehicles are themselves undertiered. Plus, the T-72 is currently only .3 above vehicles such as the M60A3, Dalets, A1A1. It’s the same BR as the Strv 105, Olifant, AMX-32, even Leopards and OF-40s. It undoubtedly needs to go up.

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What makes you say that? The vehicle with less than 300mm penetration at point blank and 2/3 crew behind a 205mm effective plate is the one that is op?

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obviously you aren’t comparing the Kpz to 8.3s as you should.

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I can’t see how T-72A is 0.3 better than AMX-32, Leos and OF-40.

It should go up first, yes.
T-72A beats it in terms of armor and shell, while KPz-70 has better mobility, reload speed, gun handling, gun depression, optics and comes with adaptive suspension. It also has a 20mm autocannon for helicopters or light vehicles.

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His kpz 70 has 0.5 kd, obviously doesn’t know how to play it and totally disregarded the vehicle strong point. Also it can lob HEAT while completely hidden behind a cover in long range maps if they know how to use the binocular to align their gunner sight, after playing other 9.3s I felt sorry for the T-72A, sometimes feels like a dinosaur

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Don’t get me wrong, T-72A is a decent 9.3 but it’s far from being OP. Most people thinking it is just had shot it’s UFP too many times.

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