Is2 1944..... still absurdly underpowered

So the is2 and is2 1944 got upteired a while back after YEARS of 6.0/6.3. No justification, stats weren’t great, russia wasn’t dominating 6.0/6.3 and the T44 also saw an upteir, removing alot of the motivation for playing that whole br range for russia. But at the same time the tiger 2 was going to 7.0. Then the tiger 2 move got walked back and the is2 stayed. So now we have the is2 1944 and tiger 2 sitting at the same br with the tiger 2 having EVERY advantage. And its not even close. Move the 1944 back to 6.3.

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pretty sure it was a decompression that saw a lot of things go up in br

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Pretty much, people demanded all the post WW2/early cold war stuff get moved up to create breathing room from the WW2 stuff, the end result of that was all the WW2 heavies started over preforming and went up too, then of course all the WW2 medium and light tanks started overperforming so they went up as well. So for the most part they are all still fighting the same stuff, just a BR step higher.

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yeah its bad cause gaijin refuses adamantly to decompress ww2 they gave up

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Doesn’t really mean much to ‘decompress’ a br when you dont change the br of the vehicles that define the whole br cluster. The panther and tiger 2 define 6.0-6.7. ‘decompressing’ the bad tanks but keeping the best tanks just makes things unbalanced. The 1944 was bad at 6.3. The is2 was good at 6.0, but not amazing.

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Is perfectly fine in 6.7.

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I mean the early Tiger II is also 6.7 like the late model.

As long as it keeps its unhistorical 130mm lower front plate it should stay at 6.7.

In my book the IS-2 wouldn’t have BR-471B and the mod 1944 wouldn’t have the D shell.

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IS-2 (1944) is one of the worse heavies at 6.7 and is no match to the likes of Tiger II (H), T26E5 or T26E1-1.

That said, IS-2 (1944) is yet another unlucky victim of our game modes, where it’s forced to play on completely flat ground due to it’s piss poor gun depression. Completely flat ground is mostly found in urban areas that are more often than not CQC mazes, which doesn’t really bode well considering it’s bad gun handling and terrible reload speed.

However you play it, your impact on the match will be limited and if you can’t make your shots count, you’re royally screwed.

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Lol… ‘they buffed the hull’ when the turret is still the weak point. What are you going to do? Turret down? And the lfp has always been more reliable than the driver port. ‘they added smoke grenades’ ok, so what most tanks its facing have? Not really a big buff.

Meanwhile, the tiger 2H has 8s reload vs 25s reload, same pen, 200m/s faster velocity, and both have postpen that ohks reliably. It has nearly double the turret armor (is2 turret face is 100mm armor) and both have similar speed. If anything, the IS2 armor is more comparable to the tiger 2P than the H. Then you have gun depression. -8 vs -3 is massive. These aren’t comparable tanks and shouldn’t be sitting at the same br as each other.

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Stats are perfectly showcasing this.

You’re surprised ? It’s russian, of course it’s OP.

I’m pretty sure I see the occasional IS-2 on 5.7 German Up tiers.

On a side note, It’s so much easier to kill an IS-3 than an IS-2 with Flakpanzer, I’ve found. Much rather face an IS-3, lol. Even the cupola of IS-2 isn’t an easy APHE spam delete button (even with the size of it) unlike American tanks.

I think the IS-2 would probably struggle less if people stopped trying to do that reverse towards the enemy gimmick. I doubt actually works and it just leaves them engine-less even if they survive a hit.

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The problem with the is2 is the reload, not the maneuvering. The reason people use the engine reverse is you need to buy yourself time to reload. If they hit your engine, you can sometimes get time to reload before they get another shot. Its actually viable, considering the crew layout of the is2 means lfp hits are usually fatal. No forward transmission.

5.7 german upteirs don’t have issues with is2s 100mm mantlet and panthers can lfp it without issue. . IS2 1944 vs maus or M103 isn’t a fight, its a slaughter.

Can’t say I agree, still love the thing even at 6.7.

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depends if you hit the optic it likes to volumetric

Fair enough

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IS2 1944 can go back to 6.3 when they remove the volumetric off it and then the same for IS2 regular at and loose the postwar round

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nobody ever thought the is2 is op

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