Is WarThunder a moral company?

Found the arguably better version lmfao
( On topic btw, that’s my reaction as well)

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I’ve yet to see staff not care about assertive civil discussion, so that’s wrong.

They aren’t… They at worst make quick responses that don’t offer explanation, which isn’t insulting, it’s just confusing at worst.

They delete verbal assaults, racism, xenophobia, illegal content, and other illicit material… that’s it.
To this day zero people have provided proof of them deleting anything else cause providing proof of the deleted material is showing illicit material, so you have to censor it which means it was justified.

Exclusively in response to feedback.*

Fixed it for you.
The DDOS attacks were proven by network experts in the community.
Also, it was for ~2 - 3 weeks and the game was still playable.

Oh, and wishing slave labor onto people is a rule violation on all social media services.

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Many people play free to play and grind out entire trees. I have 2 friends who play free just using the in game mechanics to earn gold and premium content.

There is lots of ways the game assists in the grind and access to gold without buying it with real money.

This is far easier then many other free to play I’ve played.

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Sorry I am confused. Are you saying that your friends play to WarThunder ? Or to another game where it’s easier to grind and get access to premium content ?

Well thats always the deal with free-to-play games. You grind or you spend money to skip the grind. It wouldn’t really bother me too much if it would be fun, but gaijin making the grind very painful, by not fixing the major problems that ruins the experience.

Omnipresent Spawncamping, no skillbased matchmaking, CAS dominating very ground battle and very high maintanence costs (if you have no premium) that can make you going broke on silver lions.
Not to mention the questionable balancing beetween some vehicles.

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Warthunder free to play. I was clear about that as far as I can see.

Because when you can there’s nothing left to play for anymore.

Just look at how desperate you are to paint out that the game is the issue…

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@ap0calyptica Stating facts is not protecting anything other than the truth.
War Thunder’s community has more lies in it about the game and company than League’s…
Not sure how toxicity managed to get this bad for WT’s community…

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I think it’s the same in many games like this because people generally come on to complain. Happy players just enjoy playing the game and don’t seek the forums in most cases. This leads to an echo chamber of haters that reinforce each other’s frustrations and anger and give the false idea everyone supports them when it’s just a small proportion of the millions who play the game. This then means anyone who does have a difference of opinion is an easy target for the mob.

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I would agree there.I have not read the conditions but you are purchasing GE and that is it a straight purchase. What you then decide to do with it in game is up to you.

Imho you might consider taking the RED PILL asap.

  • I have zero clue why you think that Western companies (or governments) would be (more) honest to you. I mean just remember the news and corporate policies during the pandemic, you lost in most countries your job if your employer asked for a mandatory vaccination and you refused to take the shot.

  • I do agree that communication by gaijin is rather rude and looks not really like they would care, but this was always their Achilles heal - totally ignorant and a heavy resistance towards constructive feedback.

  • I do agree that the game in itself is rather a mess as countless bugs and flaws force even experienced players to look for niches which enables fun and challenges despite these shortcomings, but your rant towards the Russian Federation is imho based on pure indoctrination.

  • Try to go outside in any Western countries with non-popular opinions - at best you just lose your job. So the freedom you feel is just an illusion.

  • You live in a bubble of stereotypes - and your history of gaijin is not complete - you forgot the Chinese investor of gaijin. With some research you find out, that investments in foreign companies always fulfill a certain purpose and the CCP decides what is the goal.

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That’s just how life works. The vast majority of people don’t or refuse to have a voice. So, while you might be speaking on the behalf of 1 000 000 happy players. I’m probably speaking on behalf of 1 000 000 upset players who find themselves not enjoying the game, are taking a break until issues have been fixed, or have given up on the game entirely.

And the likelihood of someone happy with the game coming to these forums is much higher than someone who gave up on it, is taking a break, or no longer cares about it. So, if anything, the bias here will be skewed in the opposite way that you’ve assumed–and especially when you take the staff contributions into account.

EA tried to make people pay somewhere around 400 dollars to unlock Darth Vader or spent 40 hours to unlock him. Tried to defend loot boxes by calling them “Surprise mechanics”. The removal of founders of a company that they had acquired, replacing them with people who were never there in the first place leaving it as a shell, a puppet of its former self. While other companies have done similar. EA always took it further than required.

Gaijin is nowhere near that, they are greedy, and excuse my French but EA are Greedy Bastards who would milk their consumers as much as possible just to get the Golden Eggs and milk.

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What the hell are you even saying…your statement has no bondable foundation. Countries are not gonna run a game company. GAME Companies and other businesses will make efforts to run them.
Corporations are not countries. They are completely different figureheads, Governments around the world run their country how THEY see fit. It doesn’t mean it’s right or wrong in their eyes but to others that’s a different story.

Corporations on the other hand are not the government, they do not have a say in how a country runs at all in the grandeur. So to answer your question, no country is gonna run it, a corporation would and they will either bring it to their knees or shut it down if it is acquired without consideration for the communities built around it.

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Russia and China have no say in Gaijin Entertainment, it’s a private company.
No government has a say, which is why there’s no bias toward any tech tree in War Thunder.

We’ve gone from talking about just the company to now geopolitics. Blud, you’re on track to get the thread shut down faster if that’s your aim.

Now, where’s my popcorn.

Anyways, Gaijin has issues as a company. That much is undisputable. The game has issues. Also undisputable. As for the morality of it? Well, from an objective standpoint they’ve done both moral and amoral things in regards to the game. As for the company itself? Well, not enough conclusive evidence on that front.

Like others have mentioned, though. Gaijin doesn’t hold a candle to the likes of EA and Activision-Blizzard. Remember, Activision literally milked a franchise called Guitar Hero into the ground and then shot it in the back of the head unceremoniously. Not to mention all the projects EA pulled the plug on simply because they didn’t think they were profitable enough.

I could go on, but certainly you understand at this point.

Though I’m less interested in continuing this ultimately pointless discussion and more interested in getting Gaijin on the right path when it comes to War Thunder.

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The goal of they who put the politics out there was to make the thread get closed and cleaned up so they can cry foul more.

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This really does encapsulate the outlook of everyone saying “Well maybe if you just spend another 4 years grinding to get the vehicles you actually want you’ll stop crying, that or spend 100 dollars to speed it up.” Which is just deranged.

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oh,didn’t know i guess that’s…worst.

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