They didn’t need any. The PL was at a lower BR and had gen 2 thermals, it was basically a better 2a5 with slightly less armour which is not so much relevant at top tier.
Love this hahaha.
Germany got the best tank on the planet which was barely just recently put in service and which is above any other tank in the game, except for 2A7HU and the 122s.
That was, of course, after the enormous community-wide backlash fury German players spread out across the Forums, YouTube and Reddit when they got Leopard 2 PSO, since they did not consider it to be enough of an upgrade to Leopard 2A5 or 2A6. Remember that?
Imagine if, after Leopard 2 PSO, Germany had got Leopard 2A6M, being a copy-paste of Leopard 2A6. The backlash would have been even greater and you would support it. Yet no one understands that American players are a bit tired of having been getting the same mismodelled tank since 2019, except with better thermals and heavier each time.
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Best tank is strv 122b, not 2a7v.
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Well, that’s personal preference. I honestly prefer Leopard 2A7V’s 3rd gen thermals, DM53 and L/55 gun over… whichever advantage Strv 122B is suppossed to have.
Sweden has the advantage lineup, though; 3x 122s is better than 1x 2A7V; but if it’s 1v1, I can’t see how a 122 could be better than a 2A7.
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Strv has better armor. And Sweden has 3 armoured leopards, while Germany only 1.
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I mean… 670mm KE, 750mm KE… not like any shell in the game can penetrate either of them, hahah. I would still like 2A7V’s hull to be fixed, but only for historical accuracy and realism reasons. Gameplay wise, this has no effect- I don’t think I’ve ever penetrated or been penetrated on the hull, regardless of its underperformance.
Yep, that’s the point I brought up, hahah. It’s hilarious that it took Sweden to get their 3rd for Germany to get their 1st.
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Better armor (the side and UFP composite bounce a lot more shots than you’d expect), m/95 has the highest projectile mass of any 120mm dart (.8 kg more than DM53, that’s more than the difference between L27A1 and M8299A2), better transmission (it’s the fastest top tier Leopard in game).
Overall I’d say Strv 122B+/Leopard 2A7V being better is personal preference, but I’d go for the 122
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That’s because it isn’t, it’s a sidegrade not a newly competitive MBT, if it came with a mexas UFP addon then it would be worth considering but it’s just as weak as a 2a5 with no innovations in it’s FCS or firepower while gaining an overpressure point in the RCWS and a LOT of extra weight, the PSO simply isn’t enough compared to it’s opponents in the form of the 122s and T series tanks.
Well, exactly.
That’s exactly the complaint American players have, since each and every single Abrams that has come after M1A2 back in 2019 has been merely a sidegrade; just like PSO was to 2A5 and 2A6.
Everyone understood German players’ outrage when PSO was introduced instead of 2A6EX/2E/2A7V.
Yet everyone trashes on American players for being disappointed that they haven’t had a single upgrade since 2019.
If SEPv2 was destined to be merely a slower M1A2, then it is SEPv3 that should have been implemented instead.
Imagine if, after all these years, Gaijin had implemented 2A6M, a literal copy-paste of 2A6, but with non-removable mine protection, making it slower; instead of 2A7V as they have. Would you not have been disappointed, too, the same way you were disappointed with PSO?
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The only difference is that it’s a proportionately better sidegrade, mainly in the sense of better thermals and still maintaining the snappy manoeuvrability, although even if you do receive a SEP v3 with a DU LFP i honestly don’t think it would change much, you still have the bigger weakspots in the form of the abrams’ breach and turret neck to fire at, both doing far more damage to the internals than a shot through the LFP
A lot would change:
The armor profile would go from this:
To this:
Thus avoiding the thousands of deaths that go down like this:
And leading people to be forced to actually aim for the weakspots, instead of just getting a free kill whenever they shot on the tank’s general direction.
Saying that SEPv3’s improved armor wouldn’t change much because it would still have weakspots would be like saying that 2A7V’s improved armor doesn’t change much because it still has weakspots even though it goes from this:
To this:
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Sorry Abrams are suppose to free XP piñatas for Germany, Sweden and Russia.
No additional armour.
Those same IFVs can outplay any vehicle in the game so I don’t understand your point.
It is a whole different story to outplay an MBT from the front than the sides, as it is entirely fairgame and healthy in a gameplay perspective to do it in the latter.
Of course you don’t understand the point.
These vehicles still aren’t noob friendly just because they’re a bit better than the M1 in some regards. I think your perspective as a player who has more than 10,000 battles has warped your definition of a noob. People who just freshly bought into top tier aren’t going to do well as a baseline purely because they don’t understand the fundamentals of the game. Also I wouldn’t call the Type 10 underperforming it’s another excellent MBT.
As excellent as it is, it is still underperforming in the strictest sense of the word;
The steering is bugged, making it lose more speed more abruptly upon turns than any other MBT;
Since its CVT is not modelled or even simulated, it has worse mobility than Type 90 even though it should actually be substantially better…
…and the inner cheek armor is, for some reason, just 430mm KE, even though the entirety of the cheeks should be immune to the Type 10 shell at 500m; yet, these spots are incapable of withstanding even DM33 at 1,000m.
I wouldn’t consider myself a noob, but… just barely average, which still stands my point, hahah. And I can perform significantly better on these tanks I consider to be “noob friendly” compared to the rest; extrapolating my experience to the logic I shared, that’s why I believe these tanks are noob friendly compared to the others. They are, basically, the KV-1Bs of Top Tier, except with better relative firepower too.
When I play 2A7s/122s/90M, etc, I just press W, shoot, and wait till I inevitabily die after being hit 10 times; when I play Leclerc or Abrams, I know that, if I don’t do everything perfectly by the book, I will blow up as soon as I am even spotted.
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You’re aiming at a needle wide weakspot, now compare that same weakspot to the M1A2s and their respective postpen dmg.
Thanks for proving my point. You know that you can hate the US in less cringe ways.
The turret ring is NOT going to be withstanding 40mm APFSDS, i don’t want to hear it