What the hell are you even talking about mate, you need to take a step back and see what youre saying.
Ive got top tier in 6 nations mate behind my leopards i say my abrams are the best ive got, thats with japan, britain, germany, USSR, america and china all at a minimum of 11.0 using top tier cas to bring it up.
So yeah the abrams isnt inferior in game, or in real to most tanks in game
Easy mode lol how are your T-80 performs exactly the same as any other NATO vehicles you played? I was expecting it to be like 4-5 KDR because of how easy it is to perform.
abrams is far easier to kill and disable than any t80 at top tier in any scenario on any aspect. its pennable silhouette is far larger and lethal than any t80. it’s got a better kit, the bvm is more mobile, the reload is more reliable and faster once damage, T80 ERA overperforms, abrams doesn’t have internal modules that magically eat rounds or prevent a kill… i could go on and on. and that’s just the stuff on the surface for a single vehicle. the entire russian line up in GRB is just better. playing russia in ground is no different than using cheats in a game like CS. also giving them Kh38 and Pantsir when US is on <30% win rate is just hilarious
crazy how the hivemind always jumps to my single t80um2 which i play like the average russki pressing W at everything. it’s just one tank without a line up so i’m a liability for my RU team, and it proves me right, I can crest any hill or fight broadside and still tank multiple rounds, it proves me right regardless of my stats lol
That is what I usually do anyway.
You can put the M1A2/SEP and M1A1 HC around place 6 or 7, imo both the Abrams and Type 10 have a good claim for 6th place.
The M1A2 SEPv2 is down a couple places.
The Rafale also has really nice A2G weaponry though, seems like it gets a bit underrated. Can’t say about using them yet, but I have been on the receiving end of those hammers in my tor-m1 and there was very little I could do.
Yeah the US is king when it comes to 1 death leavers, but from my experience with 7 nations up to top tier ground, quality wise Swedish and German mains aren’t much better than the non-premium player US main. They just get carried by the Strv 122s and 2A7s being so ridiculously strong.
I usually like to leave this here when people talk about how good German and Swedish mains are, happened multiple times that week but I only recorded the last instance (don’t mind the weird audio, no clue how it got so weird):
Im.not even gonna justify this with a reasonable response mate.
The t80U ( all t80s that arent the bvm) , T72B3 T90M , t90A etc are all objectively worse than fhe abrams bar in armour.
The ammo rack issue as well happens with many other tanks as well.
Or how about rounds vanishing on breach shots? That doesnt happen to the t80s it just scythes through.
The era for russian tanks isnt over performing, its.specifically designed to withstand high amounts of kinetic energy.
The f15 works as better as cap and cas than the su34 and can out do the pantsir.
Even usinf the 15A works wonders.
While the pantsir is ridiculous as its the only spaa of jts kind, it is dodgeable and acting like it isnt shows massive skill issue.
Mate that statement literally contradicts the point youre trying to make.
If it worked so well, your stats would be better, not worse.
it’s false but i wouldn’t expect a spoiled player to get it. at the end of the day, y’all are the types who would play DPRK in a north korean game and then talk about how NATO forces perform badly in that game because ummm yes the NATO players are bad. just full of it. no point trying to reason with someone like that
As if you can do anything else with that horrible ass gun depression lol you have to play it that way because it’s the only way? Now you starting to look like those typical US mains who lacks the brain power to see past turret ring armor lmao
I think ive seen a couple but the f15E in general is either on par or just a tiny bit better IMO, thr rafale i need to get and i need to get the 15E but yeah the EF2000 F15E and rafale are all better than the su34 overall due to the platforms being exceptional.
The issue isnt they are good, like minor nation players.
The difference is they tend to at least spawn more than once. This combined with a lot.of people just ramming the abrams up the middle of the map wanting to be indestructible is what brings us win rates down so much.
Before the buffs over the last year and a half ? For abrams id have said yeah it aint that good.
But right now it isnt sitting in a bad position at all.
Yeah i began grouping then when they made the CB, HC A2, and sep all basically the same thing now.
But it realistically doesnt change much in where they sit. Behind the leopards and strvs on average and above.most else.
They do have way better fire power than the 122s though
What the hell are you talking about a spoiler player?
You havent actually said anything relevant and are just shouting russian bias.and insulting me.
Whats your issue
the depression is more than enough and the mobility more than makes up for it. it’s literally easy mode. if i try harded that tank i would easily get 3 or 4 kdr especially with the ultra reliable APS that shits all over the dumb APS that NATO engineers build ))))
Read his response to me, all the points i made which are backed up in game
False.
Dudes lost the plot and just insulting me now.
buddy everything you’re saying about the t80 vs abrams comparison is bs
your argument that “every tank gets gaijined” is bs since it’s more frequent on RU tanks
i’m not gonna waste my time with the same arguments i’ve seen a million times over the last 11 years playing ts
you’re playing easy mode, you’re playing the protagonists, it’s obvious based on everything from the matchmaking to the vehicles added to the choices in game design, the mechanics that work well and those that don’t, the bug reports that get accepted and those that don’t…
again at the end of the day you have a nation with less than 30% win rate, that gets spawncamped within 5 minutes in every game, that gets smashed with the best AGM in the game, against the best helis in the game, and all this nation has is a fucking ADATS to defend itself, meanwhile poor russia has… the best SAM in the game. delusional
Oh I agree that the Abrams are solid tanks. The main problem that top tier currently has, which is the case for every nation besides Italy, Sweden and Germany, is that every nation is using either subpar tanks (CR2, Merkava Mk.4, VT-4A1 etc) or at best solid tanks (Abrams, Leclerc, T-80/90 etc) while they have to fight exceptional tanks (2A7s/122s).
Imo all nations besides Italy, Sweden and Germany should get a new and better MBT that can combat the 2A7s/122s on at least somewhat equal footing or should have some of their existing tanks ungimped.
The US is not the only nation that should get a 2A7/122 counterpart, I just want top tier to be fun again without the 2A7s/122s roaming around stomping everything. Right now it’s incredibly boring to play both as and against these tanks.
What the fk are you on about mate ?
I mained the challangers then the type 90s before the abrams properly.
Dunno why youre accusing me and insulting me.
you’re saying the abrams are better than the t80s, the fact that you’ve played japan and UK isn’t really relevant
Maybe m829a3 could help or the a trophy system etc.
Also have you seen this other dude ExcaliburSniper responding to me?
They are better than the t80s mate for christ sake both have different doctrines and design
you know you’re in the right when you start begging other people to take your side
whatevs, i’m out this bitch
enjoy the easy mode
All Gaijin has to do is add the SEPv3 somewhat decently, that would be a perfect counterpart to the 2A7s/122s. Honestly I’m quite suprised and dissapointed that we only saw a 2A7/122 counterpart for 1 nation this entire year.
This type of discussion usually brings out more extreme people from both sides. Have had this discussion many times from many different points of views and sides, so I just got used to it.
Guess the armor isn’t that strong as you claim.
Guess the buggy survivability isn’t that strong as you claim.
You’re getting your cheeks clapped in your bias machine by playing the only playstyle that suits the tank in question. How funny is that ?
Handwaves the cons as more than enough.
Thinking Drozd is better than Iron Fist.
Are you trolling by any chance, since stuff that you write make no sense ?
When RU has Pantsir and US has ADATS it’s automatically RU bias.
When US has M247 and RU has Shilka, I suppose that’s fine.
Only one delusional here is you, with your obvious hatred that stems outside the game itself.