Is US top tier too weak

OP said that only America haters say it’s because of skill issue. Alvis is implying that America mains say it’s a skill issue too.

I have top tier America and I’d say it’s 70% bad players and 30% Leopards being undertiered but still a very popular country leading to USA fighting them almost every game

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that is a interesting vision about the top tier situation and im inclining to like it

Well duh, but there are no 10.7 lineups to begin with so nothing would change for Abrams.
Maybe something for M1A1 and IPM1 since they’d only see 4x SEP2/2A7V/T-90M/Strv equivalent tanks, and Leclerc should be put to 11.3 since it’s on-par with M1A1/IPM1 currently.

Oh dang, I forgot to include that Americans and American mains are complaining about team skill as a whole and want players to improve as well as the inaccuracies of Abrams.
My anger got to me a little too well.

It might help, at the very least, you’d stop facing a wall of “full uptier” every match. If you did run say, an 11.3 line-up the most you could see of those running 12.0/12.3 tanks would be 4-8 ish right?

It would be a little better. Might also increase the chance of getting a downtier.

i totally agree with you if they actually do it and fix the tanks after. Bc my problem with the abrams is the turret ring + the hydraulic pump on the center mass of the tank, idc much about armor or other fixs (it would be good, but that is not my focus here), and those problems will still persist any BR.

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Yep, its all we can hope for at this point.

Aren’t you guys tired of repeating the same things over and over again with every new US top tier thread every day?

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It gets tiring, but it’s proof there is an underlying problem that has been neglected for way too long, and people is getting vocal.

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Until they fix the abrams, no. And i will repeat it until they do it

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Dont get me wrong, i fully agree with you. Just to be fair, germany already went through this situation when Leopard 2 PL got released, top tier was near unplayable for a while.

No

Murica Suffers

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Please, dont start off-topic.

On topic: again, just give me the ring fix and the right spot of hydraulic pump, im asking nothing more. if necessary to nerf the reload speed from 5 to 6 seconds to have theses changes, I’ll accept that too

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US top ter suffers and i have 0 post pen with all Russian apfsds. Previous game just hit an M60 on the turret ring the round just passed through and there was 0 post pen, 0 damage on turret ring, breach or crew.
Hitting ammo on centurions, Leopards, M60s 7/10 times results in “yellow” ammo, meanwhile gepards and bagels can pen turret rings, breach, front armor and 1cm of cupola and their round magically explode and all shrapnel takes a 90* turn into the crew compartment.

Still waiting for an appropriate SPAA and not some dinky tank destroyer.

A light tank that isn’t sporting a Trashmaster 25mm.

A auto light that doesnt have botched ammo would be lovely as well.

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i dont get why gaijin refuses to put ADATS as SPAA, it something so simple to change… The extra sp cost is really annoying. There is others AAs that can do very well to destroy tanks (gepard for example) and they stay as SPAA cost…

The ADATS performance could do better too, mainly the radar system.

US players are problem more than minor fk ups by gaijin in regards to badly modeled tanks

i can outperform half of players in US top tier match by using M22

50 % of all players that click start match are detriment to that team …proven time and time again.

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2v2fet

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I think I made this example already. The current state of US top tier is just the 2PL situation but worse.

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HSTV-L is fine as is, if fixed it should go to 11.7. Give it 1.0 or even .8 second reload, buff XM885, and give it an HE-VT round

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