Is US top tier too weak

This is why I want to see US on both teams, so no one will be able to escape babysitting the deadweight.

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hell no we get enough of that in ARB

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A fantasy.

The F4E had un-usable radar ordinance, they were so bad people would run 4x 9J and that’s it.

The 21BIS could hit 1450kph in a straight line, it took months for a patch to nerf the structural limit down to 1350kph. This meant you had a redfor plane that was far faster in all areas and had 6 missiles of good quality on your tail 24/7.

Oh and flares did not work as good as they are now. R60 was a menace at start, R60M even more-so as they were some of the first proper all-aspect long before 9L was doing anything in this game.

Lol. The Leopard turret is the best in the game and it even has nothing to do with differences in protection value mm but the 3d design shape. It’s insane.

While im well aware of the r60s that didnt make their range any different from now.
They tracked better and more consistently that was it.
They were not some godly undefeatable missile.
Good but not how youre portraying them.

Never have i seen anyone say nor do this at all.
The f4e radar was tempromental but functioned well enough to keep at least 2 sparrows on board for functionality.

If youre trying to out run a mig21 in a straight line you’re doing it wrong, force it into a rate fight thats how you beat them, even now adays with things even with other jets such as the F8 crusaders or the F5s for example.

While the gap wasnt anywhere near as dramatic as it is now the F4E overall dominated more lobbies in my experience.
Even seen it dawned the title the king of top tier

Edit and just to personify this, once the mig21 got nerfed and the F4E radar further imporved the gap opened exponentially, then came the f14… so yeah

Funny when its ru and america together and they fail massively.

Like the same team american mains cry is bias and super OP and they cant win a match on the team with the “bias”

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They’ll quickly shift the blame to RU players being so godawful that even their brokenly OP, propaganda machines can’t help them.
In reality, vehicles aren’t that different and bad players will suffer with anything.

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Couldnt of worded it better myself mate !

Its just how it is and people would rather hold w and win it all than actually use their brain for even a split second and change something.

It mortifies me man

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I had this exact same idea yesterday. I was like you know what would actually fix the U.S. problem? Having them equally split between both teams every time.

That way you’d have equally shit or equally good on each team.

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Anyone even Mighty Sweden can lose horribly when US are on their team
plus compare them to orange cat is insult to orange cat you should compare them to Sloths.

“We call this difficulty tweak”

~When USA is in your team

If you play ARB you know it doesn’t work!
Genuinely but it makes no sense how they can be so bad

I haven’t touched that mode in probably a year almost lol forgot how it is

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So much horseshit. Its basically WWII trash vs. postware heat-fs, no armor best armor, HE spamer is the reason. And btw. america has by far the best armor…starting with the Jumbo, T26s…and not to mention their overpowered CAS.

I was talking how USSR mains had to learn how to aim as they had to pixel hunt WW2 German tanks frequently.

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its chaos mate lol, top tier is just F15Es and EF2000s everywhere.
bellow that F14s, bellow that F4S and so on and so forth.
F104s, F5’s etc etc

Playing that br… whenever this A-1H thing shows up it kill 7-10 then if it get killed off, it spawn another one lol I don’t fly much and seems like this thing carry enough rockets to kill 100 enemies

This statement hinges on the high ratio of premium to non-premium players in the US (meaning players who’s only vehicles at the appropriate BR range, I’ll be generous and say -0.7 br as that is how Gaijin defines top tier) compared to other nations.

Funny enough I don’t “main” any nation, but my most played in ground are USA, GB, And Sweden in that order.

The original question was not whether the Leopard or the Abrams has more pen, it was whether the DM53/63 or M829m2 was a better round. Not whether the L/44 or L/55 is a better gun, it is a question asked strictly about the round, the answer I initially gave was regarding the round, if I was actually talking about the tanks themselves I’d have brought up Swedish rounds as well.

Confusion might have occured when I said that I am not using it as a point to either the Abrams or the Leopard because that discussion did absorb the other one later.

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I’d be in favor of removing nation based matchmaking from GRB in general to be completely honest, it’s “balanced” air rb out as at least you don’t get whatever the dominant vehicle of the patch is on one team.

I remember when the Mig 23MLD was absurdly better than everything else and not being particularly happy that they fought the then underwhelming USA lineup of non-PD phantoms and F-5s every game.

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Penetration analysis isn’t a valid source of what actually happens ingame unless you magically can add movement/traverse,server de-sync etc which you can’t.

Plenty of us had non pens or “hits” on weak spots that end up getting us killed but in pen analysis it shows an instant kill. The best examples are the AGM-65Ds which any hit should turn the crew into meat sludge but all we get are “hits” That’s not a skill issue that’s a modeling/server issue that needs to be addressed.

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