I see, that seems quite high compared to what i get on the A10 for example, or the 15A, hell even seems higher than what i get on the gripen with the 4 AGMS and aim9ms. sucks it cant take ARH missiles with them AGMS
hmm it seems quite high but maybe just me using poor loadouts.
it isnt as much as youd think xd still cant use it myself tbh
also on a side note im out of likes D:
TBH i prefer a fixed wing, I prefer getting in and out than the risk for helis, Helicopters if used rightly are absolutely more dangerous for ground targets as they consistently can keep firing, oppose to dropping one or two FnF missiles (yes i know can be more) and hoping they hit oppose to guided in like say a vihkr or a hellfire.
it is very very difficult to use a heli properly compared to a jet though IMO
Shame that MAWs worked on the enemies I tried to shoot down, as they’d instantly start shitting out flares and you could see the pilots reacting to that.
We agree that helicopters are more vulnerable to other units than planes.
Terrain on some maps can actually play in your favor, especially in those fish bowl style maps like Pradesh, where you can reposition quickly and have cover basically wherever you go.
We need EFT with more than a dozen LOAL Brimstones.
Thats because KH38MT’s are on different level compare to those armaments, also Rafale witth F&F AASM bombs requires similiar sp due to their capabilities as well.
F&F munitions are the key part when it comes to determing SP cost, guided bombs or semi active missiles doesnt require as much as Sp.
For example my EFT with 15 Brimstone 4 AIM9M and 4 AIM120 only requires 730 SP points due to not having F&F ability but since Brimstones can be used the way i’ve explained EFT is also as effective as Rafale/SU34 in cas department.
yeah because you have to- ahh no I won’t tell you, I don’t want to get shot down more…
does that mean that a fully loaded (with pars) tiger heli takes more than 620sp?
Please do enlighten me.
only if you pinky promise to never attack a ka52 ever again
Tbh flares and chaffs only works against missiles that is fired from either helicopter or planes, Spaa’s radar mostly immune to MAW system so you can delete them easily.
Yeah especially if you’re using Tiger UHT, Block 2 HAD and AH60, you can just spam your F&F missiles while get behind cover quickly.
Dont tease me please, we both know i will abuse that a lot :D
Of course, my both Tiger UHT and French Block 2 has F&F munitions and they usually cost more than other helicopters, sometimes they dont tho.
and that’s why I still don’t understand why gaijin does not charge extra SP for spike carrying ground vehicles. but that is a discussion for a different thread
As it should be, for example my French Tiger is superior to UHT due to having chin mounted gun and Spike missiles but for some reason both require same sp cost.
Them shitting out flares is just a sign their MAW sensed the missile launch which gives them the warning. I don’t expect their flares/chaff to do anything to my missile.
This is why I’m against helicopters getting better FnFs in the current state of the game, as on some maps they would be egregiously OP.
At that point game should give you a warning like:
You’re about to enter a match where you can encounter EFT with LOAL ammo, do you wish to proceed ?
Of course.
I agree on that part, tbh some vehicles introduced too soon into this game.
Ehehehe, that would be funny tho.
Thats the entire point of MAWs like you explained, but most of the time its useless.
I even turn off my auto spamming countermeasures due to not bein effective against SPAA’s most of the time, instead i save them against enemy air units in case they fire me a2a missiles so i can deploy it manually.
yeah its always funny when new (or in tragic cases, not new) players laugh about helicopter pilots trying to flare radar/manually guided missiles. like no, buddy, it is just their flares slaving to maw.
turn off your radar, hug the ground, approach from behind with machineguns. or try to launch fox3s/gbus/etc directly from above
I never bother with that, because HIRSS does the job
edit: and worrying about turning maw on/off and flaring is just adding more strain on the pilot (ME)
Sometimes HIRSS doesnt do its job so i dont trust it completely.
For me its just like breathing, spawn in plane or helicopter that has MAWS, open multifunction display and turn off MAW, easy peasy.
I never get killed by ir missiles, save for that japanese spaa, and i always run out of countermeasures quickly, which does not bother me. you have to face the ir missile for hirss to shield you.
there are situations that don’t leave time for that, and bothering with pressing the flare keybind when you are sure an ir missile is coming is extra time and brain ram i don’t have
Gaijin seems to like doing that as a way to make people grind/pay more, because most people like really strong vehicles that dunk on everything else.
It would be actually funny to watch the kill feed after EFT kills 7-8-9-10 players in a single pass.
That would be the end of GRB top tier.
Shitting out flares is useless, but giving you a warning that missile has been launched is not useless as it gives you several seconds to duck behind cover.
This is all from a AA vs helicopter perspective as I don’t know how MAWs work against other planes/helis.