Is Top Tier Sim Finally Dead?

I was banned for being too good bro.

I was banned for flying to smoothly it made the other pro players angry.

Simple don’t fly straight at the AMRAAM slinger.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen AMRAAMs just miss for no reason top down on F-2As hugging the deck.

Yes it did happen.

It appears WoVi squadron members + players adjacent to them filed a mass complaint.

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Do you want to know the ironic thing?

Their squadron tried to do the exact same thing to me when I first switched over to sim.

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Also they are not the only squadron that kept an enemies list. Other sim squadrons have had their own lists in the past.

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The only top-tier focused sim squadron at the time had their own bot that they would use to claim kills on certain players.

The whole initial reason for WoVi existing was to gather up all the best sim players in sim and have them all play together on one side and dominate matches.

This is direct post from their squadron leader (same guy in second quoted post).

And this post is in response to this post from a different sim player in a sim discord in relation to pub-stomping.

Also welcome to monetized pub stomping contests with specific purpose of getting noobs to rage quit.

So in many experiences players eyes, the game mode exists for squadrons do good players to farm zombers / newbs / novice players. However if other good players target them and their little clicks…then that should be banned.

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It makes me laugh so much. These guys have no life, it’s pathetic

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IMO people that complain about bol chaff makes no sense, they work essentially the same as normal chaff. You can still 3 chaff any arh missile using bol or large calibre chaff.
(Unless it’s a mica I just spam that shiiii cause you gotta chaff a lot more often for those)

I can understand complaining about bol flares as they’re actually quite a bit worse than large calibre flares for gatewidth irccm missiles, though for suspension track irccm missiles they’re essentially the same minus the burn time

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I’d rather have that as otherwise it gives fox 1 planes almost no counter play to fox 3 planes.
Also killing multipath will make early pd radar sarh planes super OP

Just expect that you where spotted first stay in the notch and wait for the merge.

That is a perfectly viable option. Early ARH slingers don’t really get boat loads of missiles anyways.

Had no idea there was a whole iceberg here lol. This is rather goofy. Just a bunch of good players trying to show their egos.

I suppose this is very different to just the average dude stepping into a match with a bluefor plane however.

Also to comment on this, your first reaction when getting illuminated by radar and CW should not be to fly straight towards it while getting low.

You should die doing that.

You can always notch, as people get used to this they won’t even bother firing as the missile will just miss.

The average blue side jet player is a newb and if you look at where more experienced players are concentrated these days at top tier., it’s on red side. When F-16C / F-15C was dominant it was reversed with only relatively small contingent of experienced players banding together.

This is why blue side sentiment around two years ago. Introduction of Su-30SM was a large turning point that eventually flipped player count disparity.

Yeah there are people like simply sinful and all.
Whole friend groups of them. Very good 100%.

But why would a group of newbs want to fight them it’s a slaughter.

Again the highest I really go is 13.0 and my kd is like 1/1 on average or so but I don’t shoot bots. I’d say I’m just average don’t expect average players to go dump SL in too tier sim so you can murder us all lol.

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This is the de-facto norm at top tier now. This is screenshot of same 3 person squad that with one of the guys who complained about being targeted because someone in my discord pinged me to fight them on Vietnam map.

There is mostly no competition amongst experienced players in top tier sim. If there are three lobbies open and two different squads of players looking to play the game…they will either end up pub stomping in different lobbies or end up pub stomping in the same lobby.

Me and Sin ran an experiment with Rafale and making sure to play in different lobbies than the other experienced sim squad that was running Su-30SM. Often times we could watch the scoreboard and see a guy quit one lobby and join another just to avoid good player spamming the best plane in the game at the time. It took about 4 people playing in 2-3 different lobbies to basically kill Sim mode on a Saturday night.

Sure, I can do that, the notching . Because I have 1000 hours in the game mode.
But how about new players?
It takes 10s if not hundreds of hours to get into the rhythm of notching and become sufficiently good at it.
New players need an easy way to defeat missiles, otherwise there’s no incentive for them to play the game.
Why else is iron dome meta super prevalent at top tier?
It’s a simple, easy way for new players to stay alive. I don’t like it, but it makes sense.
And I’d rather have players at least play the game mode than to just abandon it all together.
It’s why you might as well play arb these days, or just other games in general, it’s super dead anyways

while i played the bison in sim, i can notch quite literally any missile other than fakour, oh god its acceleration is so mental it will hit you before you even fully turn for the notch

i stopped playing bison in sim ever since the hornets came, they seem illegal for 12.3

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Well the F-15A is now 12.7 BR.

Look at that team balance and composition on a 12.7 top BR day. Funny how I recognize Exozet as F-16C player from when the plane was very strong for the BR.

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It’s going to die more anyway

It should be at least encouraged for new players to join the game mode and try to survive any way they can instead of essentially creating a walled garden where only experienced players are the only ones that can play.
And both multipathing and iron doming helps with that.
Again, I’d rather have mechanics in place for new players to at least try the game instead of them just being pummeled and then deciding to just go to another game mode without giving it a chance

insane lore drop

this so pathetic its laughable

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But what does this prove

That noobs don’t want to fight pros?

This is up to gaijin unfortunately and I don’t think they could care less yk