I just struggle to see it. How strong would a buffed turret ring be in absolute best case scenario? 200mm? 300mm?. DM53 / 3BM60 is still punching clean through. Even if they made it impenetrable i’d put money on the Veteran 2A7 / BVM players adapting and still clowning the army of clickbaits.
Idk what the solution to fixing US is as long as premiums are being sold in the volume they are. Ironically the solution may be to sell even more premiums. A premium SPAA. A premium light tank etc. If all these people are going to buy their way to the top, at least let them buy a complete lineup? Idk.
Protection against autocannons. The Abrams’s weak turret ring is the main reason why I still bring the 2S38 and BMP-2M to top tier. I’ve also been straight up disabled by a Falcon/Gepard in the Abrams just by looking at me and spraying.
Only solution I can think of (Short of dropping the clickbait down to 10.7) is to decompress top tier. Everything currently at 12.0 (let alone 11.3-11.7) could be easily spread accross multiple BRs.
Abrams, Challengers, Ariete, Leclercs (basically anything not currently a Leopard 2A7) struggles at top tier just because of how big a range there is in performance between the best and the worst. Would then also allow “accomodations” for the lower average skill of the US players, without breaking the game with stupid BRs
The extreme angle of the plates above and below the ring should also help somewhat I would think against most top-tier rounds. Light vehicles like the Tam and HSTV-L bounce shots all the time even though they dont have the greatest armor values.
What you have to look at when people complain about the Abrams being lackluster is those are decently skilled players complaining, not the premium kids who leave after one death. I among several other US top tier players would like to see the SEP v3 as it could theoretically give skilled players a better chance in matches, just like the 2A7HU has done for Italy.
Yeah, if i spend 10 minutes climbing up to 20km so that my bombs can glide the distance, assuming that I can see the target/get a lock/the enemy doesn’t move at all. That is nothing like the KH38s, especially considering the range of the ADATS is half that of the Pantsir’s.
The problem I have with it is that it gets heavier with no real armor to speak of. Unlike the Leopards, it doesn’t have a spall liner or the best shell.
People usually state that it’s the Premium players that tank the winrate or KD of the Abrams, but if that’s true, why are other Nations, that also have top tier premiums such as Russia and Germany, doing just fine?
It does seem to be a fundamental issue with the Abrams. Out of all my top tier MBT, including the Merkava, which can’t stop 10.0 shells nearly anywhere, I’d still play it over the Abrams. It’s just not pleasant to get around with unlike its 10.7 counterpart.
The U.S. can get some Ukrainian MBTs. The U.S. purchased a few T-84 Oplot-Ms, 4 to be exact, from Ukraine a while back. The Object 478BEM-1 and BEM-2 could also be added. It really doesn’t matter which of the two BEMs get added, because as far as I can tell, the only difference between the two are air conditioning. But more on the T-84 Oplot-M is that it has insane armor levels. It is one of the most protected MBTs in the world. Still suffers from the breach, drivers port, and lower front plate weak spot, but it is still very protected. The ERA is said to be more effective than Kontakt-5, so your looking close to 200 millimeters of KE protection per ERA tile, with 3 tiles being layered on top of each other on the majority of the vehicle. Could also use the 3BM42U-2 round.
As for why the T-84 picture is so much bigger than the Object 478BEM-1, it’s because there are not a lot of pictures of the BEM-1 and this one is not of very high quality.
