As I’ve said before, can’t cure cancer with AIDS
Absolutely can in terms of this game. That’s how they were balancing for the last like 6 years
Yeah… that’s why the SMSV exists. The AIDS infection that is CAS progressed too far, so they gave it cancer. Adding something else overpowered will just make TT worse.
Noooo. No-no-no. Multi-vehicle SAMs are a result of poorly managed CAS progression.
SMSV is a result of poorly managed handholding.
It would be, yes. A much better radar, a more mobile platform, the ability to use missiles and an arguably better overall gun.
They should just nerf the reload
If I am playing the SAMPT and someone lobs 20 GBU-39s I can max shoot 16. And then you have to scramble to move 3 vehicles for the remaining ones(it’s a toss up if you can even intercept at 100% efficiency anyway)
Pantsir can intercept them all. Has better mobility as a single vehicle unit and has a cannon.
Just really no comparison for balance
When I kill a Pantsir SM it usually seems like I was only able to do it because they are AFKing
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It does not, the API stat shark scrapes does not provide data from 2021, so good job at missing the actual point of the statement.
allright, you clearly did not understand what i wrote at all, so i will try to explain it again.
I am not saying statshark has data from 2021 or saying thunderskill doesnt have said data.
I am saying that data thunderskill has does not automatically make its data representative of the actual state of the game at the time.
thunderskill data depended on users uploading their own data.
That means the dataset is a subset of the playerbase, and potentially a biased one. Hence my example about tank A and B.
It is not reliable data.
do you understand what i am trying to say or do you need me to translate into your native language, since obviously it is not english?
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This gives vehicles a positive bias, since those people that knew about thunderskill tended to be more experienced (and were better players), raising their “average” stats higher than the actual average
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Against helicopters though, intercepting all 16 munitions is a pipe dream, because in my experience. Something ALWAYS gets through. This is true for any SPAA you face. It’s just that for multi vehicles its a death sentence because by the time you catch them on radar, thheyve already slung the entire arsenal at you.
If you fire it at close range and leave no time for them to react yes. But that’s basically any SPAA, so what you do to the SM is significantly worse for any other vehicle because of larger deadzones.
The reload for the Pantsir is basically already extremely slow when you drain your interceptors for starters.
And the F-15 has IR GBUS now, so what you’re saying is basically irrelevant because nobody is using the gbu-39s like that anymore. So an F-15 just wins out against you because of attrition and that’s just 1 f-15, not accounting for any helicopters or other planes that spawn during the match.
Long term is absolutely not balanced in that regard, CAS still have the advantage.
This topics title is also pointless because the “counter” is when 3 planes and 1 or 2 helicopters are up at once. That’s the one advantage multi-vehicle SPAA have over the Pantisr (besides the BUK) is that they can fire at anything within 360 degrees of the vicinity and don’t soley rely on LOS. A Pantsir is easily overwhelmed when enemies come from different directions and sling a multitude of munitions at it from different angles.
U.S has some of the best tanks compared to the T-90M and you don’t hear anybody asking “lacking a counter”, in fact you have people asking for “Anti-Relikt” darts because apparantely having armor with piss-poor mobility and no reverse is so powerful. It’s stuff like that makes absolutely no sense.
So when U.S players get a round that supposedley makes the T-90Ms armor irrelevant, added on top of the tanks already bad mobility and abysmal reload, then what’s next??
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cough cough low tier terrorist cough cough
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I think issue most people have in relation to relikt isnt that T-90M/BVM has strong frontal armor profile, but that the relikt side armor is ridiculously powerful, being able to stop point blank sideshots from M829A2/DM53, let alone less powerfull shells.
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There are still more than enough people who argue “hurr durr I need to aim against the T-90M/T-80BVM frontally, so that means it’s on par with the Abrams (for example)”, even though the Abrams absolutely dumpsters those tanks in pretty much every other area.
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Funnily enough I got my hands on Clickbait few days ago and finally decided to move onto 120mm abrams tanks and yeah lol. I imagine SEPv3 will be even funnier.
Even still, relikt bags tend to survive some major bullshit at times.
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Sometimes even ARAT ERA do some bs like eating a whole DM53 or 3BM42-2/60
Just bugs
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It’s great, you tank a lot of bullshit you shouldn’t be able to.
Until a BMPT finds, the hole
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I haven’t had many issues with the BMPT missiles hitting the turret ring, because it’s easy to make them miss.
I prefer that over trophy just letting the missiles through.
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