you might wanna also add this. so sure which one is used but it look like the one on the right ( s71m )
@Lawrence777 got anything on the telegram in the last 2 days about a su57 ? just to confirm this. thanks in advace
this doesnt look like a very fast weapon, i feel like even a subsonic cruise missile would be faster, probably some kind of drone. as it doesnt even look quite the part
those are drones and not cruise missiles
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drone this fast with a jet and swept wing dont exist, if you a got a exact model show it to me
they are? very cool, do we know anything about speeds?
just becasue they are jet powered dosent mean that it is fast
the me-262 is also jet powered and dosent go that fast
nope but it cant be too much since they all seem to have straight wings meaning that they probably wont go anywhere near supersonic speeds
the only jet powered drone that i can see be used here is maybe is geran or the test drone who dont look exactly in the video, we’ll have to wait and see
It might be like a air to ground weapons stealthy just like the agm158 i think. I dont think its considered a cruise missile on the s71.
What i think about these 2 weapons is they can achieve low speed as you can see the wing a bigger who have a large wing area. But also fast speed as its a air launch munitions. Not super sonic
Also wanna add that the explosion is far too big for a drone, i wont post it since i dont wanna get banned but its x2 bigger than the vehicle himars.
Such size will show that the tnt equivalent will more than 90kg, surely around 150kg or 200 kg
Also here the maps distance, 50km from border but i think its more since they dont launch close to the front.
The S-71K and M are drones
here’s the patent (publically available on the FIPS website) for the S-71M:
https://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll?ty=29&docid=00139478&ki=S
you’ll also be able to find the wing unfolding and control surfaces unfolding patent with these numbers on the FIPS website:
2 822 808
2 825 315
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so its like a kamikaze drone ? cus it says " TRANSFORMABLE AIR-LAUNCHED UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE WITH A COMBAT CHARGE " ? ig its similar to a cruise missile but u can probably control it more ?
The S-71M and K don’t really fit cleanly in either the drone or missile category, closer to a drone but they are blurring the line
I mean who said a drone can’t be a missile? A drone is an unmanned remote-controlled mobile device, and a missile is a self-propelled, guided ordnance. Those aren’t incompatible
Yeah shaheds are drone but they don’t behave much different from an harpoon, harpoons had the ability to fly over multiple gps waypoints and have a terminal pop up attack I’m the 80s.
Really the terms drone is a bit iffy for one way attack drones that have no real complex automation like shaheds.
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as i know the snail the su-57 will be the most op plane of all time
My honest answer on this, it depends
Su57 has this over f22 :-
Manoeuvrability (atleast with al51, even with al41 would be on par if not slightly better)
Theoretical Top speed (operationally both are stuck at mach 2 due to ram limitations)
Better sensor suite as a whole
More defensive capabilities
Has a large arsenal of weapons
Multiple radars
But it has some downsides too
Supercruise speed is mediocre compared to f22
Has a worse radar(s) (lower trms)
Low amount of aircrafts produced
A bit worse stealth than F-22
Lack of A2A IIR missiles
Currently stuck with 4 BVRAAM internally instead of 6
For ingame however, if gaijin adds both jets together right now, su57 is something literally built for this meta. But i would expect the nature and enviroment of the game to change a lot by the time 5th gens are added (like ecm, arm, aerial warfare mode etc.) making any comments on this hard.
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what do you mean by this ?
both of them is stuck with only 2 ir missile
The 9x the F-22 can carry have Imaging infrared seeker, afaik the R-74m2 doesn’t have one yet.
So yeah, both carry two sidewinders (in the sidebays), but the F-22 has IIR.
In wt rn this type of seeker is not modelled yet if I’m not mistaken, maybe when they actually bring these weapons for jets they’ll model such tech.
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Explain how its wrong? Obviously you’re coming from a “I love Russia” pov and eating the Propaganda
Thats actually a fair response