There is a lot of debate going on.Was it even a defeat
i have a hard time believing that a moving aircraft target remained stationary for the whole duration of the launch at 217km for minutes
the way range is calculated for kills for fighters here and sams seems to be differentiating yet the 217km is constant
regardless of what it was, seems like it wasn’t a su-57.
it wasnt constant, in the matter of 4 seconds, it reduced from 217 to 212km
and it definitely wasnt a su57
so the range where the aicraft died wasn’t at 217 and was significantly less as they flied towards the missile rather than the kill actually being from launch point to end
missile range is normally given at point of launch not point of impact, because that is what matters when considering if you should launch a missile
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nonono, 177km was the distance between the jet when the missile was launched
217km value was the max possible range of r37m at that altitude (which is low in this case as seen by cloudy weather in the footage)
so thats around 140-150km distance covered by the missile itself (educated guess)
so if i shoot a sam missile against a target that was 250km away but my missile travelled only 200km and i killed the target at 200km is that a 250km kill?
like i said i believe the difference between sam and air kills is in how people measure them however i am asking how do you measure these?
thank you for confirming that. then it is not the kill that is being talked about here
217 was an r37m aircraft kill.
The case with sam site is when s400 launched active radar beyond horizont which received guidance from a su35s, killing an f16.
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both of these claims are fictional
how so?
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Honestly the SU-57 is much newer so it could be better, not saying that means it will always win tough. There are other factors that wins battles than just the aicraft specs, the only thing I am sure about is that the F-35 and F-47 is probably better? I have no secret docs to share. :3
because Ghost of Kiev said so.
No, the information is correct
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my man there isnt even a prototype for the F-47 yet
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That is why probably and not 100%
both garbage
no evidence or confirmation of either claim, just garbage from propagandists
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image of a HUD confirms what? garbage
if you believe this nonsense then i have an enticing offer from a Nigerian prince
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