Although it can carry it internally. Yeah I believe the cleaim from the SAM more credible
that literally could be any other incident? multiple su27 have been shot down anyways.
No, su57 cant carry r37m internally
the date and location matches the described event
which source for example?
the date 13th of October 2022
regarding location
ill check this when back home
I read it could carry one in each bay a special slightly modified one.
there is izdeliye 810 in devlopment, derivative of r37m for internal carriage of su57
the change in design features smaller lift fins, foldable rear fins, being longer and also allegedly having a AESA seeker
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again the 1st source is simply talking about other incidence
the 2nd source is so confused and doesnt know what to tell, at 1 point it says it was the sam sites, at other it says it was 177km kill by su35, not really a credible source in my opinion
again i gave you the HUD footage, and its from a su35 and i acknowledge that
- Gun cams of Israeli aircraft.
4.Syrians confirmed the losses of most of the claimed aircraft.
How can the disappearance of a marker from the radar screen be confirmation of an aircraft being shot down? In what universe is that?
Then it should be easy for you to find and show me this confirmation from the AFU, right?
This story is quite murky.It is not known where the statement about 217 km came from.And various rumors began to spread about the R-37M, S-400, S-300V, etc.
MiG 31 Radar would not have been able to detect a drone at those ranges. Which means it was an aircraft.
You can see the target changes course slightly before impact likely the R-37M went pitbull and notified the RWR on the aircraft. By no longer showing on Radar means the object is no longer in the air/no longer moving. Whatever that missile hit was shot down.
Ha ha yes good luck with that this happened early in the war and since then BDA and anything claiming UA losses has been purged from the public sphere.
Can I ask if you would be this critical if that was a missile track from a USAF shooting down a Iranian F-4?
I can’t believe this is written by a War Thunder player, lol. Is this some kind of magical radar that allows you to see targets from any angle and in any conditions? Or did the target disappear because it turned away?
Incredible. First, you write a conspiracy theory about Israeli F-15 kills, and now it turns out that Ukrainian losses are being covered up (so how did you find out about that shootdown then?). As of now, it’s known that over a hundred Ukrainian aircraft have been destroyed, so what’s the problem with identifying which one was that record-breaking kill?
And yes, to confirm an enemy aircraft shootdown, just seeing a radar marker disappear has never been enough (unless you work for the Russian Ministry of Defense).
The target is flying then suddenly as the missile hits it decides to notch?
Did the Missile notch too?
Conspiracy, no friend the SBU literally arrest anyone who reports BDA and losses because it damages the war effort. You really have no idea.
This shoot down happened early in the conflict, Ukraine do not advertise they have lost that many airframes.
Who said Israel? The point is you are so biased towards anything that comes from Russia. If that was a UA radar track and a Su-35 destroyed you would believe it and thats the point.
Personally you can be impartial and objective you dont have to chose a side.
the first source is talking about the same incident, look at the dates
you are clearly confused about what you are even talking about
Russian ministry of defence claimed air defence systems were responsible, I linked it earlier
Russia claims to have shot down over 6x the amount of airframes Ukraine ever had in service
And how did you determine that the missile hit?
And that’s why in Wikipedia and among OSINT there is a huge list of lost Ukrainian aircraft from the very beginning of the war, including more than thirty MiG-29s, with references to both Ukrainian and foreign sources. Apparently, the terrible SBU agents haven’t reached all OSINTers and journalists yet. So, as long as the opportunity is there, go ahead and show me which aircraft was shot down at this record range. Especially since you yourself said that Ukraine has acknowledged this fact. So, go ahead, lol.