I’d also argue a dazzle camouflage does little to optical seekers either.
A target can be seen as long as it contrasts its surroundings, for pure contrast seekers this needs to be clearly differentiated from other contrast, like the ground or other obstacles, or else the seeker loses track. For an imaging seeker the tolerance is expanded for however long a targets image can be differentiated from its surroundings, even if contrasts might overlap.
A dazzle camouflage would still need to blend in with the surroundings to fool either of these seeker types, at which point the paint still can’t universally fool any optical seeker, only help blend into specific environments. I’d hardly consider this an effective countermeasure unless you have specific uses for it (e.g. camouflage against the surrounding area when parked on the ground)
And back on topic for IIR missiles, it is very much irrelevant.
what do you mean those are there high strength screws used so can tighten things securely without stripping screws the ones they used on the su57 where improper philps head screws which can not be tightened as tight without them striping which means they will fall off eventually
Of course the F-22 will be superior with it’s stealth capability, it’s Radar and sensor suites are a little dated now compared with some Gen4.5 and 5 airframes. As an air superiority fighter its the pinacle in every measure. When you set them up with an EAWACs aircraft DL their BVRAAMS they become death.
But thats not what the Su-57 or J-20 are designed to do. Russia and China know they cannot hope to defeat the US airforce, they dont have enough Gen 5 airframes and are both lagging behind NATO in certain areas. What they do know though is that it doesnt matter how good an F-22 is if its not got gas or a DL. Su-57 armed with R-37M is a huge threat to any US command control and support assets.
The J-20 with it’s BVRAAM is the same.
With the future conflicts set to be fought over Russia/Ukraine and Taiwan. The US will depend on tankers and EAWACS aircraft to maintain operational tempo. Remove a few of these and you start to impact NATO air strategy.
The Su-57 seen in the photo is not a serial production model - which underwent a major redesign before production. I already covered this uneducated comparison before.
It would be the same as comparing the YF-22 to a production Su-57.
If it would come to warthunder yes in sim because sim is more distance based and stealth capabilities are more useful but in a realistic battle it would probably not make a much of a difference, because the su-57 has emitter locating that means it can detect a radar emitter and using the f22 without it’s radar is probably not done.
![Su 57 wing [1651x960] : r/WarplanePorn](https://i.redd.it/n2us2ljoxm691.jpg)
