Is the Su-57 really worse than the F-22?

My three cents are that I’d take F-22 any day since even though not a lot were made, there’s still more of them than SU-57s and by a good margin.

Stealth with rcs of F-18? Compare with rcs of a bee? i guess I don’t need to say much about who gonna win maybe don’t even need to take a raptor to compare

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F22 is overhyped vaporware that only has a combat record of a chinese weather balloon

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Whatever is marked as F35 there is most definitely NOT an F35

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Ah yes, the fabled honey bee

I don’t understand why you’re arguing with me.
If you don’t like some of the numbers in the patent, then contact the Sukhoi Design Bureau.
By the way, the patent does not mention the T-50 at all.

Global defence corp is one of the worst defence site. Even Wikipedia is more reliable than Global defence corp.

  1. Design and Application
  2. Propaganda (Yes, both sides)
  3. Every single time USSR / RUS said they have this amazing thing, the US went and overcompensated, turning their healthcare budget to unalive care.
  4. USSR / RUS has always had a history of over promise and under deliver.

As a distant observer, knowing that link 16 is a thing, I would put my money on the F-22. Especially when thinking back on the B-2, F117 and SR-71.

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It’s not that I don’t understand them, I know exactly what they mean.

The Su-57 quite literally did not exist at this point. The first Su-57 was made in 2020, after 2 major redesigns in 2015 and 2017, and 2020 itself.

Sorry, but I’m not interested in how many Su-57 prototypes there were and what they were called.

We are now talking about a patent that indicates the RCS values ​​that they wanted to obtain.

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pre-production models and non combat cleared airframes

Russia has a GDP smaller than Texas. The US is the largest economy in the world with the largest military budget.

There’s your answer.

Yet you’re frothing over a document made about the first prototype variant… Funny.

They don’t have a patent that indicates RCS? They have a patent indicating the EPR goal of T-50-0.

Realest of the real

RCS is like LOS armour thickness, it changes drastically depending on what angle you look at it.

the F-22s given RCS is its minimum possible RCS.
the Su-57s given RCS is its minimum possible RCS (if not the average).

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Imagine thinking naked GDP means anything. At least have some decency and adjust by PPP

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India has a larger GDP than the UK even though most of their population lives on less than four bucks a day. GDP doesn’t mean a thing to a country’s ability to make anything or distribute budgets

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Imagine thinking having a large Military Budget than every other country combined doesn’t make your tech more advanced.

Are you suggesting that America, with a Military Budget greater than every other country in the world combined, isn’t more advanced?

Do you understand how much everyone leans on US tech? Seriously. This discussion is pointless. We know for a fact that the F-22 is better than the Su-57. To suggest it isn’t is utterly absurd.

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