in comparison to western made kit of the last 50 years yes, objectively
50 years is a stretch, they were equal to or better than NATO tanks up until the Abrams entered service in 1980, after which the west started to take the lead, which would make it 45 years
T-80’s couldve probably given early abrams some issues though
Id say it does matter. We shouldnt rely on others for our own defence no matter. for an island our navy is quite pathetic and everyone else is neglected of funding.
ok 45 years, as thats abrams and lepard 2
T-72 is from the 70s, the T-80 too
well yes that is true, your navy is pretty sad, its unfair to compare an island to the largest country in the world in terms of size of land army. so his 200 UK chally vs 14 sent to Ukraine point is kinda BS
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almost like they havent been really capable of a new tank since
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already adressed. went from 50 to 45 years
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out of all of are CR2 tanks I don’t believe even 100 of them are in a ready for war state
The CR2 donation was more of a gesture that paved the way for others to follow suit. The same for stuff like MLRS, Storm Shadow - the British Govt decided to stick their neck out and ‘be the first’ to cross this or that red line.
I’d say that single Squadron of Challengers was possibly more impactful for what it gave diplomatic cover for others to do - than the actual metal on the ground.
Just my take anyway.
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in terms of what we actually got in storage vs service, we have similar ratio for the abrams
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yeah thanks for reminding that, the also have 8 thousand attack helicopters, thousands of planes, lots of aircraft carriers and submarines, 39% of the global defense spending, 3.5 % is Russia…but then they tell Russia wants to attack nato rofl. Art 5 true meaning is to protect us from Godzilla I guess
thats a pretty fun conspiracy theory ngl
The whole country collpased lol
so did my country’s empire but we are still making quality stuff.
🤔
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Actually the Cheiftains pretty thoroughly hard countered anything the soviets had when it entered service in the 1960s and continued doing that for years. When it first entered service nothing in the soviet arsenal could even pen its armour.
The biggest failure of the British tank design though, has been building upon the Chieftains success but not innovating with something new. Both the CR1s and CR2s use the same engine for example, and whilst its a really really reliable engine, its woefully down on power
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not even T-62? or 64
I beleive so. At least it wasnt until they developed a new round for it or something. But yeah, Cheiftains were a really good tank.
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with how well angled the windsor turret was none of the available ammunition for those tanks would get through. on the lower plate obviously yes
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