Simply put, I believe Gaijin has gotten lazy. When was the last time we have actually gotten a non-copy-paste vehicle for an event or battle pass? The last battle pass we got a Copy-Paste M-46 and some generic bomber. Now we have a generic T-44 and another Copy-Paste vehicle. And for the event? A Copy-Paste Meteor that is at a higher BR for some reason.
I genuinely cannot think of the last time we actually had a useful, non-copy-paste vehicle. I just wish we had a top tier battle pass vehicle. It would be a lot better than some generic tank or plane that already exists in the tech tree. “But but it’s a different T-44!” Yeah, a worse version of the T-44 as a premium, makes perfect sense. It’s totally not like we could’ve had a modern Dutch light tank, or a Spanish jet for Italy. Anything would be better than a useless 6.7 tank or a 3.0 prop plane.
Last I checked, Meteors are 7.3-7.7
The T-44 is a literal Copy-Paste. “But different turret” cool, is it a T-44? Yes? It’s a Copy-Paste.
Let’s see, last battle pass was a M-46 (copied from America) and some American plane with Thai markings. Go back to another battle pass, and it was a generic Tiger with Swedish roundels. Want me to continue?
The Meteor Mk8 is 8.0 and has been for over 4 years.
Also according to your post the F-15E is copy-paste of F-15A. Mig-21Bison is copy paste of Mig-21F-13. Su-27SM is copy-paste of J-11.
ZTZ-99A is copy-paste of ZTZ-96.
And so on and so forth.
Loose incorrect personal definitions of words make for bad takes.
There is no generic Tiger tank with Swedish roundels, there’s an entirely unique Tiger 2 Sweden got though.
The T44 isnt copy paste, it is a variant that is not currently in game, the M46 was very much copy paste, even the meteor event vehicle while a very sad event is not copy paste, its got an entirely new model that wasnt in the game before
Although many players do, I don’t think it’s really fair to “judge” a BP merely from the vehicles offered as prizes. There’s a lot more to it than just that.
First off, there is a 10 day premium prize early on, that almost anyone can reach pretty quickly, that if bought on it’s own would cost roughly half what the BP costs.
So a player gets a decent return pretty soon.
Then you have to look at all the other “prizes” a player can get by doing the tasks and advancing thru the levels. There’s a lot of stuff, mostly unique. And while all players may not be interested in “collecting” such things, they still hold some “value”.
And the Warbonds that can be gathered in also have benefits and players can get all sorts of things from the Warbond Shop as well, including vehicles.
So, looking at the bigger picture might sway some to reconsider their “judgement” on a BP, and if not, that’s ok.
It’s totally optional . . participation is not required. So if it does not appeal to a player, for whatever reason, then there is no “loss” involved.
Nothing to worry or get upset about.
And another thing players might want to consider, with the amount of vehicles already in the game, the time/effort required to make new vehicles . . . we will at some time, reach a point of there being very little “vehicle wise” to add to the game. So, fewer vehicles for BP’s, events and even Updates would seem inevitable.
Unless you have ALL the vehicles the game has to offer, or at least all the ones you are interested in, then I really do not see much sense in worrying about something you are not interested in.
Gaijin may have added too many vehicles too fast here the last few years, especially the high tier modern stuff, but hey . . . . it makes them money and it is a business, so . . . understandable.
My advice . . don’t sweat the small stuff(it’s ALL small stuff)
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Pretty sure the J-11 is literally a copy and paste of the Su-27. Cool, updated electronics, still a Su-27, just with a different star and a funny letter.
The BP is genuinely the worst pos in any game I’ve ever played from the crappy rewards down to the very system itself. Its beyond bad and lazy.
Paying money to do annoying chores for copy paste vehicles, random rewards… cant even let us select which vic to get. Warbond shop doesnt even need to exist just roll it into the BP as free rewards.
It might be worth spending 20 dollars to buy the vic if you really want it, its not worth buying the bp to do annoying time sensitive chores for slop.
I know, just feels lazy. Then again, I’m not a multi-million dollar company that gets off on breaking the game every other day with updates that brings more bugs than fixes them.
@GALWAYLION So it’s abundantly clear that I’m talking to you.
This game has hundreds of unique vehicles, this game also has several different nations/tech trees which share vehicles in their armies. Regardless of what you might think, the copy pasted vehicles are historically significant and generally take up important roles fleshing out smaller tech trees. War Thunder staff spent hours and money developing the model, they developed the animations and created the textures, they implemented the vehicle features and resolved the bugs to ensure that it functions in the game (I’m not saying it’s perfect). They did the work, it’s their product, they can use it however they wish.
If they want to copy and paste the vehicle so another tech tree can have a premium version of an effective tank, AWESOME. It means that France has access to a well rounded 7.0 tank, it means that French Players have a good option for grinding.
I know, just feels lazy. Then again, I’m not a multi-million dollar company that gets off on breaking the game every other day with updates that brings more bugs than fixes them.
I’d say your half arsed justification for calling the T-44 a copy-paste tank feel lazy.
The rewards after Level 80 are the laziest I have ever seen. These 80 WB for each level are just insulting. You have to purchase a special task for 30 WB just for a chance to grind HALF of a level. If you do 2 special tasks (grindy most of the time), you will net 20 WB.
The rewards after Level 100 do not get any better. You think you are getting 100 WB, but Levels 100, 105 and 125 don’t give you any, so technically you are still getting less per each level as a total. Very stingy of you, gaijin.
If they finally get around to fix Naval aim, I might do this BP and go to Level 80 max. I cannot stand these daily, repetitive, grindy tasks that just suck out any fun left in this game.
The only thing that requires effort is getting the two coupons for free future BPs.
Other than that the BPs are chronically easy for well over $80 of value.
To each their own. I had stopped grinding specifically for vehicles well before the BP came along. It became an endless drudgery and the higher tier’d vehicles did not appeal to me, still not all that interested in that part of the game really . . personal preference. It’s there for those that enjoy it.
So I was doing Daily tasks and getting stuff from the Warbond Shop already, adding the BP just gave that part more incentive to me … . and more stuff.
Just for playing the game and doing the tasks I was already doing . . so it was a blessing . . for me.
But I understand that everyone plays the game differently and likes different things and that’s cool too.
If you don’t like the BP, don’t do it . . . pretty simple.
Easy way out.
Complaining about it doesn’t do any good, they see the numbers and know how many do it and in the end, I’m guessing that will always be the deciding factor anyway. If it isn’t making them money and participation gets extremely low, then maybe they will come up with something else.
Until then . . . play it, don’t play it . . . it’s the player’s choice.
Constructive criticism with ideas/suggestions will always be better than just griping about something . . and I think that goes extra with Gaijin and their products . . something else to consider . . .
I can’t even work up the will to log in daily anymore. There’s just so many games I could play now that equally or more fun that aren’t trying to milk money out of me constantly and ask me to do stupid tasks every day. I have to vote with my dollar since my opinion will never be heard in a way that matters so I cannot buy this battlepass for the same reason I didn’t get the last one. The game is the least fun it has ever been in the last 4-5 years to me and things need to change or I’ll just get less and less active and spend less and less money.
I gotta hand it to Gaijin, they killed off my desire to play multiplayer video games. I was already done with video games when I was forced to play with PC players, and with how Gaijin favours PC and refuses to give console Realistic and Sim battles with crossplay disabled, it was basically the end of gaming for me. Now I basically play Civ VI in my free time, and it’s a lot more relaxing than a game infested with PCheaters and a severe lack of respect for the playerbase.
There’s this imaginary list of players on the forum who’s war thunder experience I’d be interested in seeing streamed.
The players who casually and confidently talk about how easy the game is on one side, and then the players who are complaining about how broken and unplayable the game is.
P.P.S. also, what would a 1v1 prove except in the case of Dogfights, the challenge of war thunder is how to deal with the enemy team, not individual players
Or at the very least do what Chivalry and Helldivers did by making the BPs permanently unlockable. IE you can start and grind out a BP from the selection of all of them at any time, no FOMO besides being the first to get the new vehicle.
Also make the free version still give the vehicle jus take a lot longer or maybe give a non-premium version.