Brits should put cope back.
Unfortunately, Britian is held to a different standard to most nations.
Where other nations can get equipment and weapons on their vehicles if it was used by another nation, that usually doesnt apply to British vehicles. Only our Sub-TT ones like the Gripen C.
So even though the US AH-64D has DIRCM, the British wont get it because it specifically didnt use it (though the US gets flares for its F-5 because another nations F-5s used flares)
We should have gotten the AH-64E this major with JAGM-MRs as well, but alas, would be unfair on the US Mains if it came in the same update as them. Again, we’ll have to wait and see if Britain gets access to DIRCM or not as its unclear whether or not British ones have it equipped, even though it would be largely plug and play.
Same would be true for the Netherlands for France, though they already have an FnF heli.
The better question is the Indonensian AH-64E for Japan.
Sweden is just screwed
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Brits just got a new SPAA that’s better than CLAWS i guess the US can get something that’s actually good and its not a copy paste from other nations.
I get that ans understand wear your coming from because my main nation i play is israel and if youve ever tried to get the devs to fix something for israel its like there pulling tooth and nail to do it
AH Mk.1 never had DIRCM and neither do most AH-64Es for that matter, were nose diving into the future all to avoid adding a missile from the 1990’s which would improve US/UK/Japan/Israeli 64Ds all at once.
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I mean I’m anti-LDIRCM in the first place, I think it’s a hideous powercreep feature and has egged on the exponential advancement of tech while everyone else lags behind, but it’s here now so I’ll campaign for any and all ways to balance it, even if that means giving the AH Mk1/2 the dutch AMASE pods with LDIRCM (and other solutions for other nations)
AH-64E for Britain is not copy-paste.
It clearly isn’t ready, and I’m sad about that.
Soviets are getting as much as Britain, so if you’re including Soviets you have to include Britain.
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Give it time and it’ll be here soon enough.
In the context of helis, the soviets are getting long range FNF added to a heli with an extremely capable LDIRCM system, Britiain has gotten neither of those, or a counterpart.
And in terms of IRL to game, the AH Mk2 has very minor avionics changes, a paintjob change and AAC roundels, britain is procuring JAGMs so it’s an easy addition in that regard, and besides that there is a very small amount of differences to require a radical model shift
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Wow… if only there were radar systems that existed to deal with AH-64E and Mi-28NM… Oh wait.
CLAWS, Spyder, Pantsir, and HQ-17 and Type 81 for Mi-28NM.
Also the AH-64E for Britain is a different 3D model. Has nothing to do with paints or roundels.
The British military are truthful no matter how much your claims imply otherwise.
What are you talking about 😂
This is a discussion about why British helis have been neglected despite a reasonably easy fix being present, and now you are diverging into SAMs and fiction??
The Ah Mk2 is simply a re-manufactured AH Mk1, with AH-64E internals, it is visually so close to identical to other Apache models in game that tweaking it to accuracy would take less than a day of dev time, and there is nothing demanding of a brand new model anyway, debunking your claim
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Conjecture is not how vehicles are modeled.
All that research and modeling still needs to occur.
Go look into video game development, there are thousands of videos on the topic.
No one mentioned fiction, and you’re the one that brought up anti-air by bringing up LIDRCM.
I’m defending Britain getting AH-64E, and you’re out here rambling.
Externally. I dont think there is much of a difference. I dont think our AH-64E even have the Rolls Royce engines that our AH-64Ds had.
There are differences internally:
But if they had wanted it to be added in the same major update. They could have done quite easily.
So heres hoping to next major update because we’ve been without a competitive heli for about 2 years and its a shame. In fact its been a while since we’ve got any decent helis and whilst we arent alone in that fact. We have multiple outstanding that the others dont (Like the Wildcat and a dozen Lynx variants)
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The only differences are the MAWS system Britain uses a different protection systems from the US AH-64E (Arguably Europe lead the way when it comes to MAWS/Protection systems)
Engines are no longer changed to RR they are the GE power plants sold with the AH-64E
No changes to ordinance, JAGM and JAGM-MR and ATAS replacement
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If Martlets are all they are made out to be, then I’m really looking forwards to the modernised Wildcat, and eventually the Ah Mk2, looks to be distant hope though given the lack of developer statements about
top tier british helis (since the removal of starstreak first spawns lol)
20 of these will be good fun:
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I would love the Wildcat!
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Anyone know if CIRCM/LDIRCM is planned for it, I can see a traditional IRCM on the underside of the Wildcat in the image I sent
Yeah, it would be fun.
@I_MiikaL_I out here claiming that me at least implying if not outright stating British Apaches may have LDIRCM is “contrarian”.
And me pushing for AH-64E’s addition to Britain is somehow bad…
Okay dude.
Me talking about British Apaches is not off topic, read the title of this topic.
Exactly. You get my points.
There’s primarily a model difference, as I’ve stated.
That research needs to be finished and the model made, and sadly it might not be ready for this update.
It is unknown if British AH-64E will get LDIRCM. I dont think it has been decided either way and it could still get them in the future if they decide not acquire it. We will simply have to wait and see.
However, as we have seen multiple times before in-game. if a vehcle is missing native capability, but another nation operating the same vehicle gets it, then so can the original one.
Britain has 0 helis with DIRCM currently. Ergo, I dont think it would be unreasonable for Gaijin to give Britians AH-64E LDIRCM to keep them competitive with the direct equivalent AH-64E in the US tree.
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