Is the abrams really that bad realistically?

Lmao, all those vehicles also shares the same fate Click-bait has.

Do you know how many rounds i Lost because of unexperienced one death leaver 2S38,BMP-2M and T80UK players at top tier yesterday? A lot.

Saying those vehicles doesnt have the same fate Click-bait has is basically lying.

Russian players doesnt even know how to deal with proper armored tanks, thats why Strv-122 and Leopard2A7V basically murders most russian teams at top tier.

He’s correct though.
Abrams are just as good in the hands of a good player as all other top MBTs.
Good players actively avoid being shot at to begin with.

You people are just in denial and do the same circular arguments. Show me top tier players who prefer abrams to all other nations.

A good player will be able to accomplish more in a 2A7V or Strv 122 though than they will in an Abrams.

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Americans are in denial? Prove it.
Or do you mean NATO fans…
Or 10 tech tree players…
Either way, prove that Americans, NATO fans, and/or 10 tech tree players are in denial.

@_Renzo

I prefer the Leclerc over even 122’s, and the Abrams is slighty better than it for how you have to play the Leclerc, for now

İ believe Leclerc is better then Abrams,especially after reload buff.

You got consistent 5 second reload, same horizontal turret traverse, better Vertical and actually better mobility due bein lighter.

Your reports made Leclerc’s much better then before.

Good KDR? sure.
Good player? depends on what you mean, his average placement in team the last month in GRB is 37%. which is REALLY low comparatively.

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You do know that people use the 10.0 American LAV-AD and M1128 Wolfpack at top tier, too? Because they’re good vehicles? I personally use the QN506, ZTL-11, PGZ04A and ZBD04A at top tier, too. And they’re all 9.3-10.0.

The Chinese AFT-09 at 9.0 can also be used effectively at top tier. Are you just dumb?

Don’t worry, im not done yet.

You bring good points to the table, however having 30 degrees of vertical or 24 degrees of vertical doesn’t really change much, effectively, the reload if the Leclerc is better, nothing to say about it.
Additionally, while the top speed is surely better on the Leclerc, until they apply my reports the Leclerc and Abrams have similar low-speed mobility and the Abrams have a snappier hull traverse.

While with the Abrams you do get one of the best rounds in the game and MPAT if you use it, and a better turret armor with a marginally better UFP. Wouldn’t call the Leclerc better, atleast not until they fix all the issues it does have and apply my other reports

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İm counting on you :)

Guess its just personal choice at the end.

Personally i like Leclerc more then my Abrams due to reasons as i mentioned and ever since i got my Type-90’s mobility and reload rate became more important for Nato Tanks in my book.

Wareta doing 3 weeks of prep for armor reports is a patience test I wasn’t prepared for.

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many players in this thread played almost every nation and they confirm the BIAS exist.

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Can you provide the post about the spall liner? (Just a link will be fine I kinda wanna look into it)

Here’s the link: Community Bug Reporting System

They use them, yes…as do I on occassion, but they are nowhere near their russian counterparts.

You show me vid with cavenub, ryanberry, and I think Turny teamed up and expect them not to wipe the floor with the competition? C’mon man, you can do better.

Well, no. I would rather use the LAV-AD than any Russian 10.0. I think it must be far more enjoyable.
I would also take the M1128 over the Russian Sprut. I would also take the newly added 120S over any Russian 10.0.

It’s also incredibly interesting that you hold these opinions, with these stats:

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It simply feels like quite the coincidence that you seem to believe that Russian vehicles are soooo good, and are an extremely poor player at the same time. That is to say - it isn’t a coincidence. You’re a very poor player and you not being able to realize that Russian tanks are simply mediocre is part and parcel from someone with such a poor performance.

Because a good player would actually able to realize the strengths and weaknesses of all these vehicles, and come to a completely different conclusion. You are not able to do this.

You cannot comprehend the advantages of a considerably faster reload speed. Or reverse gear. Or gun depression. Or traverse rates. You cannot take advantage of the enemy’s weakspots, nor can you take advantage of your strengths.

Looking at your replays - you are a person that feeds kills to the enemy regardless of what nation you’re playing. And it’s the most common archetype among all that claim “russian bias”.

What website is this

Thunderskill. It takes all of your games played and gives you your average K/D, win rate, lifespan and such. It can also compound all of that data into a relative performance %. Very effective tool for individual statistics.

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