Is SAV 20.12.48 too high in BR?

The tank struggle to deal with T-34 and KV tanks frontally, and due to low penetration, may have to put up multiple shots. The worst thing about this tank is that it only has 6 rounds and the APHE activation point is really long, so it more often than not take multiple shots to kill the M55.

Its velocity is very low, making it less effective.

It nicely deals with the Panzer IV F2, but that’s about the only tank it has an advantage in dispatching.

If anything, it should be 4.0.

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it’s an alright spg* nothing special, doesn’t deserve a lower br though

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Its an Tank Detroyer with 120mm? What about an SPAA?

You mean SPG?

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force of habit sorry

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Another Tiger Tank classic to add to the list

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Don’t it has a 120mm autocannon?

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yeah but
its effectively a turretless bt-5 with a cannon that has sherman pen, kv-2 damage and spaa reload
the only thing that makes it dangerous is a good position otherwise it’s pretty easy to knock out

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no, its a 120mm howitzer with an autoloader attached.

to offset this the whole crew is protected by 2 layers of wet paper napkins instead of the normal 1 layer, and their heads are half exposed. the thing is a glass cannon, extremely powerful while also being extremely weak, youre never gonna balance it because its one of the few vehicles with an extremely high skill floor and skill ceiling.

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This is the same guy who did the Turm III and T58 are totally balanced threads.

Instantly this makes me think the SAV 20.12.48 should go up to 4.0.

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A while ago I got a triple kill on a Churchill a KV1 and a KV2 with it I don’t think it’s over tiered or BRd but it is a situational vehicle even with its high fire rate and decent mobility if you’re fighting a T34 from the front you were playing the wrong tank

T58 is easier to kill than t3 IMO because of no armor best armor lol

It’s very situational. It can quickly delete early panzer 4 (first shot first kill with high possiblity) but it struggles against pziv H with track armor, Sherman’s, and T-34 and KV.

What I meant struggle isn’t that it cannot kill them, but may take follow up shots to kill them.

The HE is there for a reason. It deletes all the paper armor stuff you face.

You should also avoid attacking things head on.

The only problem tank is the kv1.

I’ll have to give it a try. I play arcade so aiming for the turret is easier, which should make He shells easier to use.

ya no, that sounds like you cant remember to aim for their left hand side of the turret. the t58 is much harder to kill because you gotta cripple the gun in one hit or you will die, the turms is the same thing, which leaves which one is easier to crit, a massively armoured heavy tank where thanks to volumetric armor and multiple overlapping plates makes the turret pretty much immune to everything at its br and below, leaving just a semi small 50mm plate right next to the gun being its only weak spot. or a tank whos thickets part of the turret is 30mm, and this isnt bringing up the fact all of its ammo is stored in one central spot thats easy to hit and its all in the turret on top of that.

if you think the turms is harder to kill then the t58, you need to take a nap because staying up for 2 days will make you say crazy things like that.

Uuuuhh no hull is same as m103 with a ammo carousel it go boom throw turret very easy overall t58 probably is the better vehicle better armor better reload but center mass shot for center mass shot hitting the t3 with any type of solid shot creates very low spall versus t58 but t3 can easily be killed with sap and HE heat is just inconsistent across the board

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Nah this is an ass take. Easily could go to 4.0. If you don’t know how to frontally kill a T-34 with it I have bad news for you.

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This, and the “has no armour” argument means nothing when many of the best vehicles in the game are glass cannons.