What the Mirage 2000-5F’s KDR vs the other 13.7 jets?
I don’t really know why the stats are so low, it’s one of the best planes for air rb that I own
MICA is just insanely good
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Most other 13.7 BR jets have slightly lower stats. The closest competitor, the J10A, has a Kills per Spawn ratio less than 0.01 lower and a Kills per Death ratio just 0.06 lower. The majority of 13.7 jets hover just below 1 Kill per Spawn, with many performing even worse. For example, the F-15E with 12,026,261 spawns has:
Kills per Spawn 0.76
Kills per Death 0.94
Since the most played jets are also the most frequently destroyed, relying solely on these statistics to justify nerfs is flawed. If this logic were applied consistently, underperforming planes like the F-15E would receive massive—and unjustified—buffs, which clearly doesn’t align with actual gameplay balance.
Also if you compare purely on data the Tornado ADV has insane numbers with 791,937 Spawns :
Kills per Spawn 1.19
Kills per Death 1.54
F-16:
M2k:
it is clearly better than other 13.7 aircraft
Sample size and player base are crucial factors. A smaller player base means the data is less reliable for balance decisions. For example, just because the F-16C has poor statistics doesn’t mean it’s a weak aircraft—look at the F-4S, which has terrible stats on paper but is extremely effective. Raw data alone doesn’t tell the full story.
But in Gaijin eyes this is not the case.
Also look at ground kills, M2K if all you care is data needs a buff in it’s ordinance.
the F-16C has a better sample size than the m2k
you are shooting yourself in the foot rn
No, read again, i said the smaller the worse, then why nerf according to a unreliable factor.
Also the F16-AM that is worse in many ways than the F16C is better in data (yet small amount of games):
we can also look at the all time data and the M2k will be better than the F-16 even then
it is not it has a better flight model and the ability to carry MAWs
By monthly stats, it is THE best performing 13.7, full stop, no discussion. MICAs are just that good, very much evidently.
Low number of games? Uh, not really, taking into account both French and Chinese (identical), it has more games than, for instance:
GB/IT Typhoons (not combined)
DE/SW hornets (not combined)
Mirage 2000C-S4/5 (combined)
F4 ICE
F-15JM
F-15C
JAS-39 (any of the 5)
Not exactly super rare planes to see, are they?
The ONLY purpose is not to find wich plane is Better just why nerf it, does it deserve to go to
14.0, imo it does not, it does not overperforms or is broken just is nerfed because of gaijin nerfs depending of data and only data nothing else.
Also you still don’t take into account PLAYERBASE, that F16C has 29M games with a 50 ish percent wr playerbase so yeah the data is bad.
Stop the ragebait, MAW with only 4 missiles at 13.7 yet next patch some F16 A MLU will have the same AIM120 with no HMS too yet at 13.3 not 13.7. How can this be fair ?
Yup it sure is but same as the other person does it deserve it because it is #1 ? No this is just pure stupid, other things come into account like playerbase (already said) plus don’t take out of context info, like
I did not say it has a low number overall, i said compared to others, plus if you don’t add Typhoons not combined and combine M2K-5F what is the purpose, then it is just an unfair comparison.
Its the MICA EMs. They are completely broken OP and due a healthy round of nerfs sooner rather than later (they are overperforming)
Though they are not the only aircraft that should be moving up, All the F-15s should be going up 0.3 as well
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They aren’t “Broken” IMO, the range is ridiculous compared to aim120-B or C or even R77-1 while being more powerful in G pulls.
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They are also far far harder to notch
Oh, comparatively? Then lets compare. More games than 5 (!) toptier, end-of-the-line planes of 5 different nations. So yes, comparatively it is popular. Not quiet mainstream (those people skip it and go for the rafale), but not too far either.
Also, “nerf”? The only thing you are losing is the ability to dunk 12.7’s with mica’s really. Oh well, the best performing 13.7 in the games is in shambles I guess.
Yep, but that also adds with the smaller range, you have less time to notch.
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