Nothing to say more. It has no proxy fuse like M830A1 and performs worse than M908 (i think). Am i missing something?
It’s purpose is not really related to vehicle warfare. It’s a smart fuzed HE round meant for taking out bunkers or other fortified fighting positions, open infantry, and has airburst to get infantry that’s hiding behind walls or in trenches.
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Situational, but there are times a timed fuse is better than a proxy fuse, shooting at helis that are behind trees that would trigger a proxy for example. Or shooting it under a tank to blast through the bottom of its hull.
True, but even if that heli moves you have the same chance of the fuze not working, so might as well just sling a dart at it. We need M1028 Canister for the fun of shooting a large shotgun at things.
That’s just one example, shooting at hull down tanks is another, there are times when a proxy fuse will detonate off the ground when the timed fuse will donate over (or under) the target, it’s very situational and it seems like Gaijin has made the proxy fuses far less likely to detonate from “clutter” recently too. I would put it in the take one or 2 just in case category, it’s not like the Abrams suffers from limited ammo storage.
Use the PF round on the PzH2000(should be the same on all the 155 PF rounds). It still fuses on plenty of clutter. So much so you’re just better off not using the PF round at all unless on a desert map.
I usually set to impact except in some very specific circumstances, I’ve just noticed in test drive that some VTs seem to detonate off the ground less. That could just be a test drive bug though.
I’ll have to start remembering to set the fuse myself. I tend to forget, which is why I just don’t bring them in the first place.
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Yeah, having someone dead to rites and the round proxies early because you set the wrong fuse mode is the suck!
More so having a strip of barbed wire thats sticking up trigger it.
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AMP aka M1147 was a round meant to replace M830, M830A1, M908, and M1028. It should be able to do all these things. But due to the abrams not having all its features, it cant be used properly in the game supposedly.
Just like Gajins “Weight theory” when the SEPV3 saves weight in areas by replacing road wheels from steel to aluminum or gutting the hydraulic system for electric drives, etc etc.
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I mean it definitely can replace the M830/M908 in game, but in order to replace the M830A1 the SEPV3 would need IRST for the M1147, otherwise you can’t properly set the fuze for a moving helicopter.
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There’s a FCS mode on the M1 abrams that can compensate for consistent target movement with automatic lead calculation that would allow tracking and engaging slow air targets without a true IRST system but it’s unlikely to be added to the game. So M1147 is kinda nerfed by that FCS mode not being implemented in the game.
Which it only doesn’t have in-game for “some reason”
Like every other modern tank FCS can track heat signature is enough to get lead based on tracking movement change over delta time. Gemini entartaiment ofc thinks they are smarter than engineers
Its just that simple
- track target and register its movement over time
- get range
- math
- done
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It’s fun to bonk hull down MBTs with, but beyond that there is no real use.
AMP can kill light vehicles/apcs where m908 couldnt. For example i was able to kill AA with AMP where m908 would go trough it. Same with btr with kornet(i forgor the name) or khrizantema
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But hey, we do get Booker and IRST for it… shame we dont have any 105mm proxys.
But someone could correct me, but didnt abrams had ir tracking for ages now.
Or least they got that automated lead system anyway, when keeping target on “reticle” it would take lead etc automatically on that.
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And another thing.
In game this round is listed as HE-TF shell, but it should be AMP , and animation is same as “normal” HE shell, instead animation should be more of a kin to a M908, since it is stabilized multipurpose shell.
It should also go trough about 3-3.5" (76-90mm) of reinforced concrete.
Unfortunately it is classified how much it goes trough steel, but since it is designed to replace M908, M830 etc it should be more than 20mm listed. :D
But on wrong animation there is report allready made.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/kqQEUAwwmvR6
AMP easily kills vehicles over M908 due to it acting more like a regular he shell. M908 has a hardened steel tip and is meant to penetrate concrete before the fuse on the explosives is triggered (thus why it can go through light vehicles without fragging). It even retains the same explosives from M830A1, because M908 is just a modified M830A1 MPAT shell. Not to mention, AMP is filled with not just more explosive filler, but also with the newer and stronger Pax 3 composition instead of Comp. A.