the Abrams is probably above average in how good they are, they are defiantly better then the challengers, Merkavas, Arietes, ztz99s and Leclercs
M829A2 is better round then all of those tanks have.
the turret ring is an issue and needs fixed but compared to those other tanks you have pretty effective armour
if you really wanna compare tanks, and since your complaining about the tusk package
challenger 2TES
slower
worse armour layout
worse round
far heavier
the same reload
worse thermals
a far smaller ready rack
and similar if not worse preforming addon armour
That’s the thing, I don’t want to compare tanks at all. I just want the lower mantlet fixed. I don’t understand why everyone and their mother is bringing up other tanks in this post. I’m sure other tanks have their problems. The title says US ground top tier, not ground top tier.
Making the lower mantlet a non-pen area would fix that
You asked what was good about US top tier, I responded that the Abrams is a good tank.
Then you moved the goalpost saying that the Abrams was broken. A tank being broken doesn’t mean it can’t be good. Whether or not you can use it well is a different story.
No matter what we say, you’ll just move the goalpost.
I did not move the goal post, you guys took it upon yourselves to change the context of the question. The question already addresses the current state of the Abrams. This question was to address the other vehicles in the US lineup
Yes, because like I said 10x now, something being broken does not prevent it from being good.
You asked for reasons why US top tier is good. If you wanted your second sentence to hold any weight you should have asked for any things that aren’t broken in the top tier US lineup.
You can say the abrams is good 100000 times. It’s still not what I asked. I’m sorry you are having difficulty understanding the nature of the question.
You are asked to name what was good about US top tier besides CAS. I answered. US has 4 very solid MBTs with a diverse support lineup.
Yes they are broken and should be fixed, but they are still really good and capable tanks. That you go negative in all of them doesn’t change that, it just tells something else.
ADATS is useless for both anti aircraft and anti tank purposes, terrible line of sight radar and is classified as a spaa with the same spawn point requirements as an MBT
M1128 is only useful in certain maps
HSTVL has the wrong sabot penetration
LAVAD is decent but the FIM missiles are lackluster and short ranged
XM975 is worse than both ADATS and LAVAD but higher BR’ed than the LAVAD
The whole point of the question was to bring attention to how bad everything else performs
Honestly this should be considered more, because I rarely play with sound on anymore (and when I played only AAB/ARB I never had sound on) because I can’t really use speakers where I live, a lot of the time it’s just too boring most of the time to not listen to something else, and the sound system for War Thunder isn’t the most accurate anyways.
sounds like necrons. did i tell you one time i was i na game with necrons, and he rage quit after someone killed him from has spawn sniping spot on the middle east map?
The Abrams is good enough for players who utilize every tool needed to take advantage of enemies’ weaknesses. It is not stellar. The turret ring bug and the hydraulic pump/reservoir bug and the manual handcrank back-up are all things that should be corrected.
Not merely “for hoots and giggles”. It is an accurate representation of the tank.
We allow players to utilize ammo in Russian and Soviet tanks that don’t even detonate 25 or 30 percent of the time when struck by APFSDS, I’m fairly sure we can eliminate the bugs in the Abrams
The Chally has been bugged and its been done to death by others just as passionate, and I stand by their reasoning. Again, Gaijin should want to do right by their modeling.
