Iirc it uses the data from thunderskill, which only takes stats from people who are being searched/refreshed on that website.
So unless some dude is searching every player that plays somewhat regularly on thunderskill, these winrates will be based on incomplete data.
It only keeps track of the data for a certain day, iirc, so all of it is time accurate at the very least.
No you, or someone else, still have/has to manually update your account on thunderskill.
These guys have no deeper access to stats than that, only Gaijin has those stats.
Honestly imo the turet ring of the Abrams IS a problem missing that 300mm plate or whatever it is, but I still think the lower plate is the bigger problem I ALWAYS die to the lower plate every single time I die in an Abrams, bot having the DU inserts is detrimental but I know they wont fix it after all we had an entire thread about that one issue
Every MBT in the entire game has a weak lower glacis.
You’re essentially fully exposing the vehicle and then expecting your opponents to be unable to penetrate the lower glacis with APFSDS, that seems rather silly to me.
There really isn’t anything to fix regarding the lower glacis as it stands.
If at some point a authoritative and publicly available source is provided that confirms the use of DU in the lower glacis for one or more of the in-game M1 models, then it should be implemented.
But right now, no such source exists.
The existence of a thread doesn’t somehow prove that the contents of said thread are true.
If I make a thread about the M1A1 actually using a KwK 43 88mm gun, does that make it factual?
Systems and methodologies exist to account for that.
In short, all the lack of samples means is that the data doesn’t support some specific claims.
e.g. “The M1 Abrams has a global win rate of 30%.”
And to some degree limits what can be known. And so using a basic series of well established Assumptions.
for example The Data could be used, and does support the following assertion that ;
“Swedish MBT’s probably have a Higher Win rate than their US’s counterparts.”
But could not be used to derive what the true value is, only the trend.
The biggest problem is actually not the turret ring but the lower mantlet.
The matches are still based off of people who play that day, though, so it’s not like old stats are carrying over in the heatmap.
True, they are not old, they are just incomplete, as only the matches from people who update rheir profile are counted.
Honestly, tripod said it perfectly.
Thats fair, I also learned that the way the Abrams’ armor is designed it should be much harder to pen in general its armor is designed in such a way so as to shatter shells on impact (much like how the upper plate should) but supposedly would be extremely hard to model (doubt)
its actually considered a medium tank but yea it’s basically a light tank without the mobility cause of its issues
In that case your aim is at fault, not the Abrams.
If you struggle to kill any T-series tank the fault really lies with the player, they’ve generally got poor survivability and around 74% of the shots I take against them result in one-hit-kills:
The Strv 122 and Leo 2A7’s are a different story however. Whether you’re in a T-80BVM, Leclerc, M1A2 or Merkava, they all struggle to deal with them.
If you genuinely require 1-5 seconds to aim, perhaps War Thunder isn’t the game for you.
Neither do the Leclercs, Merkava’s, Ariete’s, T-90M’s, T-80BVM’s, ZTZ-99A’s, VT4A1’s, Leopard 2A5’s, 2A6’s, Challenger 2’s or Challenger 3’s.
Yet all of them are performing better than M1’s, it’s almost as if the skill of the players determine the outcome of rounds.
Cough cough
Almost as if they should be 12.0+ BR to represent their overwhelming superiority to everything else in the game
cough cough
Oh man what a horrible cold my bad
actually T-90, T-72 and the T-80 somehow absorb APFSDS rounds (from abrams at least) with their ERA, makes no sense how or why but it does, any shot to the side its pretty much a guaranteed kill though
I don’t have any problems with that outside of randomly getting Gaijin’d (which happens to any tank regardless of nation).
Trash players have better stats on average in the leopards than they do in the abrams by like 20-40% in some cases. Its not just the skill of the player, most of war thunder is populated with complete trash unskilled players. The difference is that the abrams is not good enough to make up for how bad the average player is. Also when this average bad player buys a 2a4can or t80ue-1 they are fighting tanks that they really dont need to learn to shoot at, abrams are pretty much insta kills no matter where you aim. Where as the abrams click bait buyer has to aim at weakspots on pretty much every tank they fight. This means that on average the abrams players are going to get mogged, which is shown in the fact that the win rates for these players and k/d stats are 20-30% lower than their german or russian counterparts. The fact is that the abrams and really all other tanks in the game besides leopards are just not good enough to compete with how broken the 2a7 and 122s are.
Indeed, the Leopard 2A7V, 2A7HU and Strv 122’s are currently the easy-mode MBT’s.
Unfortunately, high tier USA has the highest % of poor players thanks to the popularity of the M1 platform as well as the fact that the M1A1 AIM and Click-Bait are older vehicles than the T-80UE1 and Leopard 2A4M.
The latter two haven’t gone on sale yet, unlike the M1A1 Click-Bait which saw a major spike in player numbers with the latest sales.
This is just complete nonsense.
My M1’s regularly tank 11+ hits without much issue, they’ve easily got the best survivability of any MBT that doesn’t have spall liners and their armour profile is far from the worst.
You don’t genuinely believe that hits to the turret cheeks, UFP, left and right sides of the LFP are instant kills on M1’s, right?
You’d have a point if you were merely talking about the modern and up-armoured Leo 2 variants, but you’re making this as a general statement and therefore it’s just nonsensical.
M829A2 has no issues reliably penetrating and killing literally any MBT (that isn’t the aforementioned Leo 2’s) at top-tier without issues.
There’s no reason why someone would struggle to kill their opponents more in a M1A1/M1A2 than if they were in a Leclerc, Merkava, Challenger 2, 3, ZTZ-99A, T-80BVM, Ariete, T-90M, Leopard 2A6, etc. The only difference is that the average US main is just abysmal.
If Sweden or Italy were to receive a Squadron M1A2 SEP, I bet it’d have absolutely stellar stats in no-time.
CAP + there is no way you could prove this.
CAP + Anecdotal NO ONE EVER SHOOTS THE TURRET CHEEKS. like what kind of argument is that.
CAP + there k/d would be the same as abrams players win rate would just be carried by the fact that its on the 122s team.
I don’t get how people can shoot an Abrams so many times without killing it. Unless I’m blind firing through a smoke, it usually takes me 1 or 2 hits to kill them. 3 if I’m tired/unlucky.
Its probably because hes making up bs to try to reenforce a bad opinion.