Is it too much to ask to fix US Ground top tier?

@AlvisWisla yeah i was looking to see where you were going with that. The 416 tech if you wanted could find it’s roots to the sks being the first short-stroke gas piston. That being said the exact system used is from HK G36.

Yes i did say AR18 or AR-180 as known exported. It used a short-stroke gas piston unlike the AR-15/m16. So what about it?

On that note talking to you yes players do share a responsibility of the blame for the low win rates. Especially those who buy their way into top tier. There is plenty of details in this game wrong with tech from all nations but to say players have no responsibility in the W/R nah.

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The 8 was on purpose the ar-15 and ar-18 use 2 different gas systems.

I mean the forum user accidentally typing an 8 instead of a 5.

Meaningless.

He was talking about me and i am saying it was no accident.

Right…

actually its missing a fair bit of interior hull armor as well

No, it does. Abrams spalls way more than other tanks thanks to the 19mm armor plating behind the fuel tanks. While fuel tanks act as extra armor for other tanks, it’s the opposite for Abrams.

Not at all, the SEP V3 can’t compete with 2A7’s, especially if it’s Gaijin’s implementation. V3 should’ve been added long time ago alongside the 2A7’s and Strv 122’s. USA gimp is intentional as they ignore every source and those they can’t are still not implemented despite months and multiple updates.

in-game SEP V2 is straight up downgrade from SEP, that TUSK package should’ve been removable and also have Trophy system as optional modification. They didn’t even gave the ammo upgrade, M829A3 which was suppose to have increased effectiveness against ERAs, out of all this Gaijin choose to make it the worst possible variant of the tank.

No, there’s a solution, to give Premium & Squadron vehicles 2-3x free backups per match if they don’t have a lineup in same BR range. They already do this for Israeli M51.

Agree, turret ring is mostly a problem against auto cannons like 2S38 and BMPs. It won’t make a difference at top tier. Only solution is for Gaijin to finally add SEP V3 with hull armor, and actually implement the kevlar lining that reduces spall amount and angle.

Exactly!

To all you guys who think the Abrams is super nerfed

Why do you think a fairly similar MBT, the Leclerc, has such better player stats?

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Lerlerc has actual mobility advantage, 5 sec reload is autoloaded, so no Ace crew or loader down debuff. And France has Ito 90M as SPAA is 2nd best SPAA in game that somewhat protects from Russian CAS spam.

But more importantly, it’s a minor nation not only played by a lot of veteran players but also get’s more favourable matchmaker being in bigger Russian and German player filled teams with best tanks and SPAAs, meanwhile US teams fill 90% of the team with average players, average tanks and below average SPAAs. It’s no surprise that they get stomped, no veteran plays USA top tier because even if you’re good, the Abrams can’t carry your average teammates like Leopards and T series can, there for they all die of and you’re left alone to fight against entire enemy team alone.

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I’m fairly certain they already come with backups.

Furthermore, it doesn’t do anything to solve the problem of Click-Bait and AIM players not knowing what they’re doing.

I’ve long said the SEP v3 should’ve been implemented instead of the SEP v2, but I’m still realistic about the fact that the hull armour is very likely still going to be penetrable to top-tier APFSDS, dispite the upgrades.

There’s also no spall liners present on the M1 series of tanks. At the very least Gaijin has nerfed their effectiveness a bit, which lessens the gap between tanks that have them and those that don’t.

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SEPv3 with trophy to fuck with vikhrs and other AGMs would be funny. I agree though, it’s armour package won’t change how it plays; penned through the LFP by every modern 120MM+ round.

Premiums does come with them but they run out quick and allows only 2 spawns. My suggestion is 3 free spawns for premiums and 2 for Squadron vehicles.

Well, they will learn. One death leaving is just gonna further delay that process meanwhile leaving your team vulnurable. There’s no one fix solution, these changes could help at least.

What are you basing that on? I’ll sources I’ve seen proclaim 600 or more protection against kinetic rounds which can stop direct Russian 3BM60, Chinese, Sweden shells and Japan’s, Israel shells when angled and only Germany, Britain, Italy etc BM53 users can pen reliably. It’s still not bad.

There’s some sources that mention Abrams using kevlar lining to reduce spall.

How much protection do you think the hull has? All sources I have seen say around 600 KE. Only the DM53 and few others can reliably pen that.

Honestly, it doesn’t matter. Nobody has that information. I could pull a number out of my ass, but it would be just that; a guess. I haven’t seen a single reliable source stating the amount of KE protection of the hull. I’d ask for those sources tbh, because I’m genuinely curious as to where they got that information.

These are the all I have seen so far, not sure which one is reliably which is not, just sharing what I have found.

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None of these are primary sources, and only one of them cite their sources. These are just bullshit claims that they got from ‘somewhere’ and said ‘sounds right’ before posting. None of these are credible.

Hell, one of these is literally Steel Beasts. Let me put this one in perspective, would you take War Thunder as a credible source?

I’m looking at the ogorkiewicz source soon. Give it a couple seconds for amazon to finish delivering it.

Edit: found the first source https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA567418.pdf. Just a thesis. Non-credible tbh.

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I didn’t claim any of them to be reliable primary sources, what is up with this aggressiveness? What I said is all sources I have seen proclaim the same ~600mm hull armor

There is no aggressiveness? I’m just evaluating the sources. The probable reason you’ve seen all sources proclaim the same 600mm KE is that they’re all citing each other, and there’s one false claim made years ago that started all this. Now I’m just digging to see what it is. Relax.