Is it possible to talk about how....... Bad the player base has gotten?

“I’ll just post up this wall of crap to wade through to make someone have to wade through it and itemise and split up everything to address so we can blow a thread out to absolute infinity because we’re all not going to accept anything but stats and numbers because no-one here can actually discuss anything without implying insults and inferiority compared to actually taking the point on as a DISCUSSION…”

“Meme in for more mockery and lowbar tropeism”

Didn’t do that at all, and never have… You implying that I struggle is just an insult.

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Mmh.

stats and numbers are objective without any subjective bias. If your statement does not correspond to numbers, its worth considering whenever it is true.

this is more often than not said by people that just want to make statements without any evidence to back them up.

You keep saying that winrate is mostly team dependent, im saying its not. You dismissed my claim by saying that winrate isnt reliable because “it can be played”, I merely provided hard numbers to show that it is possible to influence the winrate by geniune playing.

If you have problem with that, thats not my issue. At any point you could say “ok i was wrong” and i would drop the act. You didnt. You also didnt prove me wrong.

You keep insisting that stats arent good indicator because success is team dependent.

That’s not actually what I said, and it’s disingenuous to even try say that…

You’ve only picked up on this to argue.

Im sorry? What else is there to take other than what I said?

Saying

is absolutely misrepresenting what I said…

You’re making out that ‘stats’ aren’t good, when I was specific in what I said for a reason.

Maybe read what’s said and take it on board rather than saying nope, and formiung a wall of text to tie someone up on a response.

In what way? I literally linked your post from which what I said is concluded.

Yes, you were specific. When I explained why you are wrong, you called it wall of text. Something you didnt bother to read…

Re-wording what I said to make it stats instead of winrate which was what I was mentioning directly about being a more team related thing, is what I mean…

No, you back and forthed it to make it about how good you were with your premium, and then made a whole page of text to make it a chore to read your flexing about how good you were with that one vehicle.

Ignoring the actual point that the team is more the reason for your win than individual skill or effort.

Hence where you can sit back and snipe, doing nothing for the team, and still gain that win, regardless of how amazing you paint your effort out.

My point is solid, you just don’t agree with it and proclaim that I have to be wrong because you’re not discussing anything, you just came in here to argue and make out I was wrong.

It’s literally malicious to modify the quote in that manner.

The quote everyone can see was edited, and response to which you can also edit?

i adressed it, you dismissed it as “gaming the system” without any proof and in that wall of text you didnt bother to read i explained how it is not “gaming the system”.

There is a solution to that

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As the game becomes more about generating cash, as it is now, rather than trying to promote the game and build the player base as it was in the first few years it gets to the position it is now.
Nobody really cares about the game, how it is allegedly to be played the correct way, team play, player statistics or many other aspects that can be included.
It seems it is more of a collectors game with all the advertising hype that comes with it. limited time offer, only a few available, gambling mechanics, FOMO, so people just play to waste time and achieve their own objectives and if that is done early in the game they will most probably bail and carry on to a new objective in the next game.
At present the game is not entertaining or engaging enough to generate any interest in the majority of players, and that is the fault and problem of the company and the decisions the management make not the players.
As for player stats they are mostly meaningless due to the game supposedly being a team game, RNG, cheating and unbalanced matchmaking and vehicle balance. Most people fall neatly into the bell curve of distribution, if you have a win rate of less than 10% or even 5% then that is low, conversely a win rate of 90% or 95% upwards is a excellent score anything else is really just average.
Of course win rates are dependent on a lot of factors and variables outside of the players control, to some extent also K/D ratios but they can be cheesed and manipulated to a certain degree.
It is just not a good game any more when it comes to engagement, entertainment, interest and holding players attention.

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Don’t care, it was the angle you took on the premise to make out it was stats compared to just the winrate as what was being discussed.

I didn’t dismiss it, I provided another reason as to why you can’t trust it as an accurate indicator…

You can statpad the crap out of something, by just not spawning it when it’ll end up affected.

Pretty simple really.

I don’t need a page and a half of text to make that point.

and in that page and a half you didnt bother to read, i explained as to why your assumption doesnt hold any water.

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Not really, you just splurged out a crap-ton about how things in your eyes don’t match what I’ve said.

I’m sorry you have to desperately try to pick an argument on the back of the usual debate not discussion angle.

and provided data on top of explanation why what you said isnt true.

dont be making unfounded claims on forum where other users can react to them if you dont want other users to react to them.

it is that simple.

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proving a statement wrong is part of a discussion. if you want to have your statements uncontested and accepted as truth, go to some echo chamber, not to a forum where other people can challenge it.

you literally just made a claim without anything to back it up.

unfounded

Subjective opinion is not a fact, why some people cant just accept that its beyond me.

Im done. You complain about me posting a wall of text, one which i had to actually think it over and type out, and then you go and post AI slop. What a massive hypocrite you are.

Also posting AI slop:
chatgpt-fail-03

It’s not AI slop though… That’s the thing… It’s something I generated months back to counter this exact mentality, and it holds water as you so put.

I’m not going to read your wall of text because it’s intentional and for wasting time and drawing the argument out, but I can’t post it because you want your opinion to be held dear…

Now that’s hypocritical.

This isn’t the same, in fact, it’s a strawman.

Its to ilustrate that ChatGPT can get things wrong.

To further ilustrate this:
chat gpt
smt

Im not actually going to bother responding to AI generated response as I would to with an argument made by person, theres no thought behind it, no context in which it thinks and process information.

reread that sentence again.

You refuse to read an argument made by actual person but wonder why someone wont react to AI generated response?

anyone can challenge my statements as much as yours. its forum where other people can react to it. that is perfectly fine, in fact im looking forward to it when someone finally does it, because then it can be discussed further.

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Stop trying to manipulate what’s been put by cropping quotes…

Just shows how desperate you are to argue compared to discuss.

It’s almost like you’re implying I just generated it and didn’t proof read it… Just absolutely disingenuous…

Said by the person posting AI slop. Who also think AI generated slop isnt AI slop, even when shown AI cant get facts wrong.

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