Is it just me, or are 8.7 USSR dart rounds weaker in general?

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As title. I’ve recently been playing 8.7 Russia, and the darts simply do not work. They rarely one shot, and get weird bounces. I’ve bounced off a Marder and failed to kill an Amx 30 frontally in three shots despite all of them penning.
I’ve played top tier usa and france before but never had this problem. So is it just me?

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Because the ‘dart’ is just a reskinned 3BM-8 APDS. It sucks balls.

I think @AlvisWisla mentioned it was incorrectly modelled? I could be misremembering.

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The early USSR APFSDS rounds are short-rods, a small tungsten penetrator in a steel casing. You can think of them as stretched out APCR rounds.

Which also means they have pretty terrible modifiers against anything that isn’t flat single plates. Angles, spaced armour and composites will degrade the shell’s performance a lot.

The 115mm cannons improve on them a bit with the 3BM4, which is all steel, and have good angle modifiers while still being a short rod.

But its not until the T-62M-1 3BM28 that the tree starts getting proper long-rod ammo.

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I had the same problem playing the t62, post pen was pretty bad. I don’t play that BR much so I had to go in and learn all the ammo layout of the weird tanks around that BR to make it better. Actually had a lot of fun playing the t62, one of the last tanks until you get to the dark times in the russian tree with 4km reverse tractors.

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Well youre trading armor for firepower.

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In that br nothing really has meaningful armor, except Ru has slightly better protection against autocannons. These things are facing mostly DM23/m111 and their entire vehicle hitbox is green.

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That would be misremembering.
I said that the penetrative performance of 3BM25 is effectively 3BM8 without the same shell shattering.
The Soviets never made a good round for the 100mm gun if I remember correctly cause they switched so much to the 115 and 125.

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Until the Chinese get a hold of them then we see a much improved version of 100mm, which is the DYW PT86-100 use by a light tank, that thing nearly as potent as the 3BM28